Jayland Walker Killed by at Least 60 Bullets Fired By Police

OneEyedDiva said:
Prosecuting "Killer Kops" is a relatively new development Win. For decades they have gotten away with killing Black men and boys, then Black women and girls. In fact these KK's (hmmmm maybe another K needs to be added) got away without even being charged. One of the most heartbreaking cases was several decades ago when a cop shot an 8 year old boy, out for a stroll with his father because he "looked like the perp"...WTF!! 🤬 :cry:

@rgp always makes excuses for them but I suspect that like them, he is racist. He is likely also ignorant to the many circumstances in which the victims committed no crime at all. We (Black people) are very familiar with the term "driving while Black", then there's "walking while Black", etc. and like you pointed out Win...he refuses to acknowledge certain truths. I doubt that he would care anyway. Let sh*t like this happen in his family and I bet he'd change his views. Rgp, don't bother to reply directly to me because I've got you on ignore. Not letting you get on my last nerve ever again! :LOL:
@Pecos @mrstime @Ruthanne @dseag2 @ohioboy
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I agree that prosecuting police for their homicides or for killing black people is rather a new phenomenon. I have been shocked for decades about the killing of blacks by the police. It's way overdue that they be prosecuted for these murders. It's been a very very sad state of affairs what's been allowed to go down.

I think there still are some good police who do right. I have had both good and bad experiences with them. One cop protected me while my car was broke down in rush hour traffic. Another cop shot at me and nearly blew my head off when I was a teenager. I was a passenger in a car and will not go into the details. I have seen how they use too much force.

Anyhow just wanted to say I understand.
 

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I previously posted about my interesting cop experience when I was 19: (and, no, I don't dislike all cops; just the bad ones. They are individuals just like the rest of us)
At 19, my girlfriend & I had a picnic planned in a park. I went to the restroom. When I walked in, I saw a man on the floor, slumped against the wall next to a urinal. I thought, "He'll probably never get drunk again when he realizes he passed out on a dirty restroom floor."
After a few seconds, I realized how quiet it was & took a closer look & saw that he wasn't breathing; he was dead. And the brown swede jacket he was wearing was soaked in dried blood. And the zipper on the gym bag next to him was partly open & there was a bunch of cash in it.
I ran out, told my girlfriend about it & we walked across the street to a gas station & called police. They told us to meet them at the park.

One cop went in the restroom & the other one stayed with us. The cop came out of the restroom & said, "Yeah, that's the 211."
He told us the guy tried to rob the liquor store a block away & the clerk shot him.

The cop asked me if I touched anything in the bathroom. I said, "Only the urinal handle to flush it."

The cop asked me, "Did you see the money in the bag?" I said, "Yes."

The cop asked me, "How much cash did you take?"

I answered, "None, sir. How much cash did YOU take?"

The cop asked me, "Why are you being a smart ass?"

I said, "Because you accused me of being a thief."

The cop says, "No, I didn't; I asked you if you touched the money."

I said, "No, you asked me how much cash I took. Don't you see the difference?"

He said "Pfffft" & walked away, mumbling something about "Long-Haired Freaks." The other cop took our names & addresses.

After I calmed down, I asked my date: "Where do they find such dickheads?"
 
win231 said:
I previously posted about my interesting cop experience when I was 19: (and, no, I don't dislike all cops; just the bad ones. They are individuals just like the rest of us)
At 19, my girlfriend & I had a picnic planned in a park. I went to the restroom. When I walked in, I saw a man on the floor, slumped against the wall next to a urinal. I thought, "He'll probably never get drunk again when he realizes he passed out on a dirty restroom floor."
After a few seconds, I realized how quiet it was & took a closer look & saw that he wasn't breathing; he was dead. And the brown swede jacket he was wearing was soaked in dried blood. And the zipper on the gym bag next to him was partly open & there was a bunch of cash in it.
I ran out, told my girlfriend about it & we walked across the street to a gas station & called police. They told us to meet them at the park.

One cop went in the restroom & the other one stayed with us. The cop came out of the restroom & said, "Yeah, that's the 211."
He told us the guy tried to rob the liquor store a block away & the clerk shot him.

The cop asked me if I touched anything in the bathroom. I said, "Only the urinal handle to flush it."

The cop asked me, "Did you see the money in the bag?" I said, "Yes."

The cop asked me, "How much cash did you take?"

I answered, "None, sir. How much cash did YOU take?"

The cop asked me, "Why are you being a smart ass?"

I said, "Because you accused me of being a thief."

The cop says, "No, I didn't; I asked you if you touched the money."

I said, "No, you asked me how much cash I took. Don't you see the difference?"

He said "Pfffft" & walked away, mumbling something about "Long-Haired Freaks." The other cop took our names & addresses.

After I calmed down, I asked my date: "Where do they find such dickheads?"
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You were being a smart ass , and disrespectful .

I think ? You and I are the same age ? ..... And after all these years you still carry that grudge .....
 

Sunny said:
He was unarmed.
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Well ...... that's your opinion . Every news cast I have heard on the incident says he shot at them from the car ..... and a gun and an extra clip were found in the car .

While i respect your opinion , I completely disagree.

From CNN , through Google .....


"A chase ensued and police said shots were fired at officers from the vehicle during the pursuit.
After chasing the vehicle "for several minutes," the department said the person slowed down and fled from the vehicle while it was still moving, leading officers on a "foot pursuit" which ended in a parking lot."
 
rgp said:
You were being a smart ass , and disrespectful .

I think ? You and I are the same age ? ..... And after all these years you still carry that grudge .....
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Respect is earned. NOT something given automatically because of a uniform. A police officer who accuses someone of being a thief without evidence is not only an idiot, but also unworthy of that uniform. The jerk got exactly the respect he deserved - none.
"Carry that grudge?" Naw, it just taught me at a young age that people are individuals.
BTW, Have you started working on that "Free Derek Chauvin" petition?
 
Whether he was a criminal or not a criminal, one wonders why he would be wearing a ski mask while driving down the road?

The violent episode began when police tried to pull over Walker for traffic and equipment violations. The suspect refused to pull over and led officers on a four minute high-speed chase and fired one shot at them, police said.

Walker then jumped out of his still-moving car wearing a ski mask and was Tased and met with a hail of gunfire as he ran through a parking lot. He was not carrying a gun when he was shot. The autopsy also found he was sober at the time of his death.

Something else interesting, this was the second car chase he was involved in on consecutive days, that seems to be repeatedly practicing risky behavior -

Police in nearby New Franklin Township had tried to pull over Walker a day earlier for a broken tail light but stopped pursuing him when he drove into neighboring Akron.

Quotes extracted from - https://nypost.com/2022/07/15/jayland-walker-shot-46-times-by-ohio-cops-autopsy-finds/
 
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win231 said:
Respect is earned. NOT something given automatically because of a uniform. A police officer who accuses someone of being a thief without evidence is not only an idiot, but also unworthy of that uniform. The jerk got exactly the respect he deserved - none.
"Carry that grudge?" Naw, it just taught me at a young age that people are individuals.
BTW, Have you started working on that "Free Derek Chauvin" petition?
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Always with the smartass remark ......... you just can't help yourself can you?

Its no wonder the cop thought you might have helped yourself to a few bucks.
 
HarryHawk said:
Whether he was a criminal or not a criminal, one wonders why he would be wearing a ski mask while driving down the road?

The violent episode began when police tried to pull over Walker for traffic and equipment violations. The suspect refused to pull over and led officers on a four minute high-speed chase and fired one shot at them, police said.

Walker then jumped out of his still-moving car wearing a ski mask and was Tased and met with a hail of gunfire as he ran through a parking lot. He was not carrying a gun when he was shot. The autopsy also found he was sober at the time of his death.

Something else interesting, this was the second car chase he was involved in on consecutive days, that seems to be repeatedly practicing risky behavior -

Police in nearby New Franklin Township had tried to pull over Walker a day earlier for a broken tail light but stopped pursuing him when he drove into neighboring Akron.

Quotes extracted from - https://nypost.com/2022/07/15/jayland-walker-shot-46-times-by-ohio-cops-autopsy-finds/
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<grin> ...... but in the mind of many , some here, he had the right to do all that crap, and the police were wrong to persue him, and shoot him.
 
An unloaded gun, ammunition and a wedding band were found in the front seat of his car.

So he shot at the police with an unloaded gun?


Police in nearby New Franklin Township had tried to pull over Walker a day earlier for a broken tail light but stopped pursuing him when he drove into neighboring Akron.

Pure speculation on my part.

And they stopped pursuing because it wasn't their jurisdiction. I wonder how they knew it was the same person. Did knowing that it was the same person make the chase more important to catch the person the other police chase wasn't able to? A one upsmanship to show they were the better police force?

He was shot 46 times according to the article. I've been watching to many crime stories on TV where actual cases the coroner pin point the location of the entry points of a person being shot. Strange to me the article doesn't mention if he shot even once in the front.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/15/jayland-walker-shot-46-times-by-ohio-cops-autopsy-finds/
 
rgp said:
Always with the smartass remark ......... you just can't help yourself can you?

Its no wonder the cop thought you might have helped yourself to a few bucks.
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The cop thought I might have stolen money because that's what HE would have done. Criminals often justify what they do by saying "Everybody does it." And we've seen countless examples of cops who steal money, drugs and guns - both from their own evidence lockers and from suspects.
https://ktla.com/news/california/fr...f-stealing-from-suspect-taking-drugs-on-duty/
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/07/7943...-accused-of-stealing-money-from-drug-suspects
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0220311-q5v5difd2rffhpp5ptdywpd3vy-story.html
https://www.complex.com/life/califo...shes-patrol-car-steals-uses-meth-from-suspect
https://www.denverpost.com/2016/10/...from-suspect-after-body-camera-missing-money/
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/new...ce-room-swaps-out-oxycontin-for-aleve-6665021
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...ears-for-stealing-drugs-during-traffic-stops/

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/249850.pdf

There is lots more. Please let me know if you want more info.
 
Knight said:
An unloaded gun, ammunition and a wedding band were found in the front seat of his car.

So he shot at the police with an unloaded gun?


Police in nearby New Franklin Township had tried to pull over Walker a day earlier for a broken tail light but stopped pursuing him when he drove into neighboring Akron.

Pure speculation on my part.

And they stopped pursuing because it wasn't their jurisdiction. I wonder how they knew it was the same person. Did knowing that it was the same person make the chase more important to catch the person the other police chase wasn't able to? A one upsmanship to show they were the better police force?

He was shot 46 times according to the article. I've been watching to many crime stories on TV where actual cases the coroner pin point the location of the entry points of a person being shot. Strange to me the article doesn't mention if he shot even once in the front.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/15/jayland-walker-shot-46-times-by-ohio-cops-autopsy-finds/
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They had diagrams where he was shot on my local news:. 1 time in the face, about 5 times in the back, about 15 times in the front -liver, spleen, left kidney,heart, lungs, etc; also in the right leg and foot.
 
win231 said:
The cop thought I might have stolen money because that's what HE would have done. Criminals often justify what they do by saying "Everybody does it." And we've seen countless examples of cops who steal money, drugs and guns - both from their own evidence lockers and from suspects.
https://ktla.com/news/california/fr...f-stealing-from-suspect-taking-drugs-on-duty/
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/07/7943...-accused-of-stealing-money-from-drug-suspects
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0220311-q5v5difd2rffhpp5ptdywpd3vy-story.html
https://www.complex.com/life/califo...shes-patrol-car-steals-uses-meth-from-suspect
https://www.denverpost.com/2016/10/...from-suspect-after-body-camera-missing-money/
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/new...ce-room-swaps-out-oxycontin-for-aleve-6665021
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...ears-for-stealing-drugs-during-traffic-stops/

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/249850.pdf

There is lots more. Please let me know if you want more info.
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A gun was in his car and a clip with bullets in it. Sorry I was replying to @Knight
 
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Ruthanne said:
They had diagrams where he was shot on my local news:. 1 time in the face, about 5 times in the back, about 15 times in the front -liver, spleen, left kidney,heart, lungs, etc; also in the right leg and foot.
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So there is no real way to know if being shot in the back dropped him & then shot on the ground took place?
 
 
win231 said:
The cop thought I might have stolen money because that's what HE would have done. Criminals often justify what they do by saying "Everybody does it." And we've seen countless examples of cops who steal money, drugs and guns - both from their own evidence lockers and from suspects.
https://ktla.com/news/california/fr...f-stealing-from-suspect-taking-drugs-on-duty/
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/07/7943...-accused-of-stealing-money-from-drug-suspects
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0220311-q5v5difd2rffhpp5ptdywpd3vy-story.html
https://www.complex.com/life/califo...shes-patrol-car-steals-uses-meth-from-suspect
https://www.denverpost.com/2016/10/...from-suspect-after-body-camera-missing-money/
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/new...ce-room-swaps-out-oxycontin-for-aleve-6665021
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...ears-for-stealing-drugs-during-traffic-stops/

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/249850.pdf

There is lots more. Please let me know if you want more info.
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No, I tend to stick with the topic at hand , as opposed to clouding the air with unrelated stories.

So you are clairvoyant ? And have the ability to just know what that officer "would" do?
 
There are a LOT of bad cops out there. While most are good, honorable, and decent people — probably fairly large majority — there are a LOT of bad ones who seem to be trigger happy, and until that stops, the entire force looks bad. Even if it's only 10% that are bad, that's still a lot.

The secret service isn't looking too good these days, either.

Secret Service deleted text messages from Jan. 6 and previous day, Homeland Security watchdog says
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/14/sec...ious-day-homeland-security-watchdog-says.html
 

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