Medical Marijuana and Other Questions About Pot

Keesha said:
ok maybe not quite as ‘open minded’ as me. Check. :)
Just for the record I live in a tiny little rural town of less than 1,000 people .
There are many things that are ‘too much’ for me but that’s another thread altogether
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Thanks for understanding:)
 
Lilly Begonia said:
All I have seen in my life indicates that pot just makes you stupid and you don't get anything done. I am not prepared to believe that it has any medical value, but rather that those who want to get high want us to believe it does for the sake of their own agenda.
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A VERY debatable reply!

If Medical MJ worked on my arthritis pain, I’d sure use it and so would my wife along with a LOT of other Seniors. It would be your choice not to, but I wouldn’t condem those that do and can live a much painless life.
 

James said:
I have a relative that has a medical weed license. The medical has very low THC (the "high" chemical) but a high CBD level (the therapeutic cannaboids in pot).

He also grows his own from seeds that produce the same thing. Low THC, High CBD.

Uses it for pain instead of opioids.
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Yes indeed and it works effectively.
Thanks for the great post.
 
Looked at the Go Green CBD Balm site.

" Ingredients: Extra Virgin Hemp Seed Oil, Cocoa Butter, Organic Beeswax, and custom scent based on scent selected Click Here for 3rd Party Test Results
Product Attributes:
External applications
500mg or 1000mg per 1oz
Calming Balm includes our unique terpene blend that is similar to a lavender scent.



500mg to 1000 mg. Mg's of what?

Are the ingredients listed in order of most to least?

I can't help being skeptical until I understand a few things abut this 3rd party report, maybe someone would know.

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What's The "Chief Science Officer" Chris Hudella's real title, MD, MA, PHD, it seems Chief Science Officer sounds funny. Any one know what weight percentages means for CBD.?

Website is "shopify", doesn't sound very clinical.
Anyway, that's all I have to say about this site.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1...0mg_Test_Results_Balm.pdf?1500956999441678506
 
RadishRose said:
Looked at the Go Green CBD Balm site.

" Ingredients: Extra Virgin Hemp Seed Oil, Cocoa Butter, Organic Beeswax, and custom scent based on scent selected Click Here for 3rd Party Test Results
Product Attributes:
External applications
500mg or 1000mg per 1oz
Calming Balm includes our unique terpene blend that is similar to a lavender scent.



500mg to 1000 mg. Mg's of what?

Are the ingredients listed in order of most to least?

I can't help being skeptical until I understand a few things abut this 3rd party report, maybe someone would know.

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What's The "Chief Science Officer" Chris Hudella's real title, MD, MA, PHD, it seems Chief Science Officer sounds funny. Any one know what weight percentages means for CBD.?

Website is "shopify", doesn't sound very clinical.
Anyway, that's all I have to say about this site.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1...0mg_Test_Results_Balm.pdf?1500956999441678506
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Let me see if I can shed at least a little light ...

ProVerde is an acknowledged testing lab for marijuana based in Massachusetts. Dr. Hudella is the founder and (basically) the CEO and has a PhD, I believe in some chemical field.

500-1,000mg of CBD per ounce of balm is what they're referring to. The analysis shows only the cannabinoid ingredients, so things like carriers or emulsifiers (beeswax, emu oil, flavoring, etc.) won't be listed. I don't believe they're listed on the analysis from most to least - it appears almost a random listing order.

The Shopify listing is only where GoGreen stored a copy of these results. It isn't the website of ProVerde, which is here.

Third-party testing is common practice in the drug and pharmaceutical world. Unfortunately, many companies don't want to spend the money to have this testing done, so they do it themselves. Those are the ones you have to look out for.
 
Keesha said:
Oh and with peppermint even. Lovely . Thank you Jim. I will check it out. I really appreciate the fact that it has ‘third’ party test results.

Thank you everyone Good stuff. I really like open minded people.
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Don't be thrown off track by individuals who use words like 'we' or 'everybody,' as it is impossible for any one individual to speak for anyone other than themselves.
As for me, personally, while I'd consider the possibility that perhaps it could be helpful for people with certain medical conditions, that's the extent of it. Otherwise, based on what I've personally seen of 'recreational' drug use, addiction, and consequences, I'd be all in favor of the old-fashioned Rockefeller Drug Laws.
 
JaniceM said:
Don't be thrown off track by individuals who use words like 'we' or 'everybody,' as it is impossible for any one individual to speak for anyone other than themselves.
As for me, personally, while I'd consider the possibility that perhaps it could be helpful for people with certain medical conditions, that's the extent of it. Otherwise, based on what I've personally seen of 'recreational' drug use, addiction, and consequences, I'd be all in favor of the old-fashioned Rockefeller Drug Laws.
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Really?

15-to-life for having 4 ounces of weed in your house?

A bit draconian, don't you think? Even for NY, which has the highest arrest rate for marijuana.

Thank goodness that law has been revamped.
 
I deal with the worst case scenarios of CPTSD clients: vets, law enforcement and emergency personnel, child refugees from war torn countries Strong pharmaceuticals usually do not work for this level of trauma. They inhibit normal emotions, natural inhibitors and healthy decision making processes. In adults, heavy meds destroy capacity for sexual and emotional intimacy. The risk of addiction from opioids horrendous. Then

there the dangerous side effects of multiple drug interactions. These people die in droves, or snap, even kids. Adults self medicate with alcohol and street drugs. Marijuana, both medical and recreational has remarkable efficacy in allieviating their emotional agony, and addressing any physical pain from injuries they may have. It works, allows person access to a healthier

life. Add therapy, prognosis good. I don’t advocate non medical marijuana for children, nor do I advocate strong antidepressants, anti anxiety drugs. Therapy, and a calm home, going to school, interaction with other kids and wholesome activities work best.
 
Shalimar said:
I deal with the worst case scenarios of CPTSD clients: vets, law enforcement and emergency personnel, child refugees from war torn countries Strong pharmaceuticals usually do not work for this level of trauma. They inhibit normal emotions, natural inhibitors and healthy decision making processes. In adults, heavy meds destroy capacity for sexual and emotional intimacy. The risk of addiction from opioids horrendous. Then

there the dangerous side effects of multiple drug interactions. These people die in droves, or snap, even kids. Adults self medicate with alcohol and street drugs. Marijuana, both medical and recreational has remarkable efficacy in allieviating their emotional agony, and addressing any physical pain from injuries they may have. It works, allows person access to a healthier

life. Add therapy, prognosis good. I don’t advocate non medical marijuana for children, nor do I advocate strong antidepressants, anti anxiety drugs. Therapy, and a calm home, going to school, interaction with other kids and wholesome activities work best.
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Great post Shalimar. It’s most appreciated.
Thank you so much.


Thanks ‘everyone’ :grin:
 
You are most welcome, Keesha. I have one client who probably had less than a year to live unless he altered lifestyle. Living on opioids, cigarettes, occasional crashes from mixing narcotics and booze. Lost forty pounds in three months. Arranged for him to have a service dog, interfaced with his doctor. Gradually his pharmaceuticals were replaced with medical cannabis. Fast

forward eight months, he has regained normal weight, off all pharma meds except a very low dose of and antidepressant, Paxil. He and his dog have a marvelous bond, he works out, and is beginning to be involved in social interactions once again. No longer drinks or takes any untoward drugs. Prognosis, excellent, so proud of him and his committment to regaining his life.
 
Shalimar said:
You are most welcome, Keesha. I have one client who probably had less than a year to live unless he altered lifestyle. Living on opioids, cigarettes, occasional crashes from mixing narcotics and booze. Lost forty pounds in three months. Arranged for him to have a service dog, interfaced with his doctor. Gradually his pharmaceuticals were replaced with medical cannabis. Fast

forward eight months, he has regained normal weight, off all pharma meds except a very low dose of and antidepressant, Paxil. He and his dog have a marvelous bond, he works out, and is beginning to be involved in social interactions once again. No longer drinks or takes any untoward drugs. Prognosis, excellent, so proud of him and his committment to regaining his life.
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I’ve never been on any of those drugs or ever been co-dependant on any serious drugs BUT I can most certainly relate to experiencing severe trauma and the psychological aftermath that accompanies it.

Thats a true success story Shalimar.
There are many people who have been over ‘prescribed’ dangerous narcotics that could kill them which is pathetic in my opinion. There are also many people who abuse drugs of all sorts, for whatever reason that is , who are HUGELY helped by the use of cannabis. Sure in a perfect world nobody would use anything and we’d all live happily ever after but that’s not ‘reality.’
 
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Shalimar said:
You are most welcome, Keesha. I have one client who probably had less than a year to live unless he altered lifestyle. Living on opioids, cigarettes, occasional crashes from mixing narcotics and booze. Lost forty pounds in three months. Arranged for him to have a service dog, interfaced with his doctor. Gradually his pharmaceuticals were replaced with medical cannabis. Fast

forward eight months, he has regained normal weight, off all pharma meds except a very low dose of and antidepressant, Paxil. He and his dog have a marvelous bond, he works out, and is beginning to be involved in social interactions once again. No longer drinks or takes any untoward drugs. Prognosis, excellent, so proud of him and his committment to regaining his life.
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What exactly is your profession ? Are you a doctor of some sort ?
 
Thanks Phil! That helped a lot in verifying Hudella's credentials. I looked at that site, which you kindly provided.

One thing I didn't like about the GoGreen website was that phony little slide out on the left that kept coming out announcing that "so and so from Frog, MO just bought the balm" or some saying like that. I'm not criticizing their web design for design's sake, but it cheapens the integrity of the company and it's product.

I missed seeing that "500-1,000mg of CBD per ounce of balm" like you saw. It does bother me that the list of ingredients are random and not in order of most to least, but since members here have tried it and stated it does work, makes me more apt to try it.

Thanks again Phil for your help!
 
RadishRose said:
Thanks Phil! That helped a lot in verifying Hudella's credentials. I looked at that site, which you kindly provided.

One thing I didn't like about the GoGreen website was that phony little slide out on the left that kept coming out announcing that "so and so from Frog, MO just bought the balm" or some saying like that. I'm not criticizing their web design for design's sake, but it cheapens the integrity of the company and it's product.

I missed seeing that "500-1,000mg of CBD per ounce of balm" like you saw. It does bother me that the list of ingredients are random and not in order of most to least, but since members here have tried it and stated it does work, makes me more apt to try it.

Thanks again Phil for your help!
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A lot of sites have that little slide-out these days. I guess it's supposed to instill a sense of acceptance of the site, that other people trust it so much that they're buying from it.
 
SifuPhil said:
A lot of sites have that little slide-out these days. I guess it's supposed to instill a sense of acceptance of the site, that other people trust it so much that they're buying from it.
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Last time I was on the GoGreen site that slide-out popped up and said that Gary O' from Oregon just bought 375 cases of balm.

In all seriousness, about 1 min after I bought my last can of balm that slide-out showed up with my name on it and what I purchased.
 
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