I refuse to acknowledge the WP anymore, since I can't ever finish (or start) reading one of their articles without paying money.
Oh for God's Sake!!! There's more abuse by priests??
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I refuse to acknowledge the WP anymore, since I can't ever finish (or start) reading one of their articles without paying money.
Well said, I agree, when children are involved it's intensified, IMO.
I refuse to acknowledge the WP anymore, since I can't ever finish (or start) reading one of their articles without paying money.
I don't understand that, SeaBreeze. If you click on the link I gave you about the priests abusing deaf children, are they asking you for money? Isn't it just a news article?
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I got a popup, asking me to subscribe, Sunny. So I clicked away because it covered the article and I couldn't read it without paying.
No, you can't read the article without paying for it, I've gotten this popup around a half dozen times already from WP articles linked here that I could not read because I refuse to pay this website. Next time I see a WP link, I will not click on it, it's a waste of my time.
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I get those popups too, and don't click on them, either.
[h=1]Students abused at Catholic school for deaf boys in Verona seek closure at Pope's summit[/h][h=2]Social Sharing[/h]
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Thomas Daigle · CBC News · Posted: Feb 21, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 11 hours ago
Alessandro Vantini, second from right, wearing glasses, with some of his schoolmates at the Antonio Provolo Institute for deaf boys. Dozens of students at the school suffered sexual and physical abuse by priests between the 1950s and 1980s. (Stephanie Jenzer/CBC)Alessandro Vantini uses crude gestures to illustrate the way three priests abused him throughout his entire childhood at a school for deaf boys in the northern Italian city of Verona.
He said one clergyman regularly hit him with a stick and sodomized him. "For me, it was like dying," he said through an interpreter.
He said he yelled but "no one could hear me because everyone around was deaf."
At least dozens of boys who attended Verona's Antonio Provolo Institute are believed to have suffered similarly horrific experiences. Between the 1950s and 1980s, staff at the Catholic Church-run school physically and sexually abused deaf students entrusted in their care. The scandal only came to light decades later.
Vantini attended the school from age six to 18. Now 68, He has lived with the horrific memories for decades. (Stephanie Jenzer/CBC)
That the Provolo scandal is considered by some observers to be the biggest known case in Italy's history underscores the size of the task facing Pope Francis as he convenes senior Catholic clerics for an unprecedented global summit.
The meeting, which gets underway Thursday at the Vatican, is aimed at preventing the future abuse of minors after decades of widespread sexual abuse by clergy and its systematic coverup has undermined the faith of many of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics.
Vantini is one of about 25 abuse survivors and their supporters making the 500-kilometre train journey from Verona to Rome to demand a monetary settlement for historical abuse suffered at the Provolo Institute.
"I'm fed up with this story," said Vantini, 68. "I want compensation." He said he has lost faith in the Church and no longer prays.
[h=2]'I believed them'[/h]The Provolo scandal has put a stain on a Unesco World Heritage city famously known for its medieval architecture and as the setting for two of Shakespeare's plays.
The Provolo scandal was first reported in Italy's L'Espresso news magazine in 2009. Under the headline "We, the victims of pedophile priests," the article revealed 67 people had signed a document alleging historical abuse at the institute.
Verona's Antonio Provolo Institute made national headlines 10 years ago, when allegations of sexual abuse committed by priests against deaf boys first surfaced publicly. (Stephanie Jenzer/CBC)
The writer, Paolo Tessadri, said he was "stunned."
"But when I looked them in the eyes and heard their words, I believed them," he said in a recent interview.
Some 400 local deaf people now regularly congregate at the Provolo Association, a community centre of sorts across town from the site where the school for the deaf used to operate. The interior is decorated with skulls, dolls resembling unborn fetuses and newspaper clippings about clerical abuse — a striking symbol of the level of anger still felt here toward the Catholic Church.
Not all members of the association attended the school, but everyone is aware of the horrors that occurred there.
"Physical violence, oral sex, sodomization and everything in between," Provolo Association president Giorgio Della Bernardina explained bluntly. He says he didn't personally experience sexual abuse at the institute but regularly suffered physical assaults by clergymen.
And misconduct extended beyond the boys' school. Girls who attended another institution two doors down — separated only by a church — complained of secretive abuse, as well.
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Thomas Daigle · CBC News · Posted: Feb 21, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 11 hours ago
Alessandro Vantini, second from right, wearing glasses, with some of his schoolmates at the Antonio Provolo Institute for deaf boys. Dozens of students at the school suffered sexual and physical abuse by priests between the 1950s and 1980s. (Stephanie Jenzer/CBC)Alessandro Vantini uses crude gestures to illustrate the way three priests abused him throughout his entire childhood at a school for deaf boys in the northern Italian city of Verona.
He said one clergyman regularly hit him with a stick and sodomized him. "For me, it was like dying," he said through an interpreter.
He said he yelled but "no one could hear me because everyone around was deaf."
At least dozens of boys who attended Verona's Antonio Provolo Institute are believed to have suffered similarly horrific experiences. Between the 1950s and 1980s, staff at the Catholic Church-run school physically and sexually abused deaf students entrusted in their care. The scandal only came to light decades later.
Vantini attended the school from age six to 18. Now 68, He has lived with the horrific memories for decades. (Stephanie Jenzer/CBC)
That the Provolo scandal is considered by some observers to be the biggest known case in Italy's history underscores the size of the task facing Pope Francis as he convenes senior Catholic clerics for an unprecedented global summit.
The meeting, which gets underway Thursday at the Vatican, is aimed at preventing the future abuse of minors after decades of widespread sexual abuse by clergy and its systematic coverup has undermined the faith of many of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics.
Vantini is one of about 25 abuse survivors and their supporters making the 500-kilometre train journey from Verona to Rome to demand a monetary settlement for historical abuse suffered at the Provolo Institute.
"I'm fed up with this story," said Vantini, 68. "I want compensation." He said he has lost faith in the Church and no longer prays.
[h=2]'I believed them'[/h]The Provolo scandal has put a stain on a Unesco World Heritage city famously known for its medieval architecture and as the setting for two of Shakespeare's plays.
The Provolo scandal was first reported in Italy's L'Espresso news magazine in 2009. Under the headline "We, the victims of pedophile priests," the article revealed 67 people had signed a document alleging historical abuse at the institute.
Verona's Antonio Provolo Institute made national headlines 10 years ago, when allegations of sexual abuse committed by priests against deaf boys first surfaced publicly. (Stephanie Jenzer/CBC)
The writer, Paolo Tessadri, said he was "stunned."
"But when I looked them in the eyes and heard their words, I believed them," he said in a recent interview.
Some 400 local deaf people now regularly congregate at the Provolo Association, a community centre of sorts across town from the site where the school for the deaf used to operate. The interior is decorated with skulls, dolls resembling unborn fetuses and newspaper clippings about clerical abuse — a striking symbol of the level of anger still felt here toward the Catholic Church.
- Residential school survivor calls Pope's absence from meeting with sex abuse victims 'disrespectful'
Not all members of the association attended the school, but everyone is aware of the horrors that occurred there.
"Physical violence, oral sex, sodomization and everything in between," Provolo Association president Giorgio Della Bernardina explained bluntly. He says he didn't personally experience sexual abuse at the institute but regularly suffered physical assaults by clergymen.
And misconduct extended beyond the boys' school. Girls who attended another institution two doors down — separated only by a church — complained of secretive abuse, as well.
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I agree RadishRose... if we are really honest here this subject needs to start at home at a very early age. Pedophile (man, woman or child) behavior of any kind should never be accepted for any reason.
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Geez! I wonder what the alleged "homosexual agenda" is supposed to be anyway. Someone should tell those cardinals that homosexuality had been around longer than the Catholic church, with or without "organized networks." And just who participated in said climate of complicity? Oh, yeah that would be the cardinals, et al. -- the very ones complaining about the conspiracy of silence.
Who do these people think they area kidding??
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February 25, 2019
Melbourne, Australia (CNN)One of the most powerful men in the Roman Catholic Church was found guilty of multiple historical child sex offenses at a secret trial in Melbourne in December, the existence of which can only now be revealed.
Australian Cardinal George Pell, 77, is almost certain to face prison after a jury found him guilty of one charge of sexual penetration of a child and four charges of an indecent act with or in the presence of a child in the late 1990s.
Melbourne, Australia (CNN)One of the most powerful men in the Roman Catholic Church was found guilty of multiple historical child sex offenses at a secret trial in Melbourne in December, the existence of which can only now be revealed.
Australian Cardinal George Pell, 77, is almost certain to face prison after a jury found him guilty of one charge of sexual penetration of a child and four charges of an indecent act with or in the presence of a child in the late 1990s.
He was part of the inner circle.
I wonder why the pope hasn't just exclaimed, "Stop touching the children!"
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Pell has been convicted but an appeal is pending.
News of his conviction was suppressed because there were other charges and they didn't want to taint a possible jury.
Those charges are not going ahead now so the suppression order is lifted.
He is due for sentencing next week and may soon be taken into custody.
I really hope he goes to a real prison and not house arrest where he will be treated with all reverence by the other priests.
I'll let you know how this develops.
News of his conviction was suppressed because there were other charges and they didn't want to taint a possible jury.
Those charges are not going ahead now so the suppression order is lifted.
He is due for sentencing next week and may soon be taken into custody.
I really hope he goes to a real prison and not house arrest where he will be treated with all reverence by the other priests.
I'll let you know how this develops.
Catholicism has been involved in abuse throughout history.
https://upstanderproject.org/firstlight/doctrine
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The trouble can also exist within the home - grandad, uncle, father, cousin or brother.
I have taught a course in protective behaviours to teenage girls but it can be adapted for much younger children.
Such course should be part of every school curriculum, and from an early age.
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And yet another case here:
French cardinal convicted of covering up sex abuse allegations ~
PARIS (Reuters) - A high-ranking French Catholic cleric, Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, was convicted on Thursday of failing to report allegations of sexual abuse in his diocese and said he would submit his resignation to Pope Francis.
Barbarin, archbishop of Lyon and the highest-profile cleric to be caught up in the child sex abuse scandal inside the French Catholic Church, was handed a six-month suspended prison sentence.
The court in Lyon ruled that between July 2014 and June 2015 Barbarin covered up allegations of sexual abuse of boy scouts in the 1980s and early 1990s by a priest who is due to go on trial later this year.
Barbarin was not present for the verdict but his lawyer, Jean-Felix Luciani, told reporters he would appeal the ruling.
Barbarin denied concealing allegations that Father Bernard Preynat abused dozens of boys more than a decade before he arrived in the Lyon diocese in 2002.
Barbarin told a brief news conference he would travel to the Vatican to meet Pope Francis in the next few days and resign. The victims and their families were in his prayers, he added.
Preynat has admitted sexual abuse, according to his lawyer.
There was no immediate word from the Vatican on whether Francis would accept the resignation, which could remove Barbarin from his post as archbishop but leave him with the rank of cardinal.
Prosecutors in Lyon had previously investigated Barbarin but dropped the probe in mid-2016 without a detailed explanation. However, an association of alleged victims called Parole Liberee (Freed Word) used a provision of French law to compel the cardinal to stand trial.
"This will send a strong message to the Church and to the pope," said abuse victim Francois Devaux, applauding the verdict.
Barbarin's trial put Europe's senior clergy in the spotlight at a time when the pope is grappling with criticism over the Church's response to a sexual abuse crisis that has gravely damaged its standing around the globe.
(There's more, read on if you wish)
news.yahoo.com/french-cardinal-found-gui...abuse-092538150.html
French cardinal convicted of covering up sex abuse allegations ~
PARIS (Reuters) - A high-ranking French Catholic cleric, Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, was convicted on Thursday of failing to report allegations of sexual abuse in his diocese and said he would submit his resignation to Pope Francis.
Barbarin, archbishop of Lyon and the highest-profile cleric to be caught up in the child sex abuse scandal inside the French Catholic Church, was handed a six-month suspended prison sentence.
The court in Lyon ruled that between July 2014 and June 2015 Barbarin covered up allegations of sexual abuse of boy scouts in the 1980s and early 1990s by a priest who is due to go on trial later this year.
Barbarin was not present for the verdict but his lawyer, Jean-Felix Luciani, told reporters he would appeal the ruling.
Barbarin denied concealing allegations that Father Bernard Preynat abused dozens of boys more than a decade before he arrived in the Lyon diocese in 2002.
Barbarin told a brief news conference he would travel to the Vatican to meet Pope Francis in the next few days and resign. The victims and their families were in his prayers, he added.
Preynat has admitted sexual abuse, according to his lawyer.
There was no immediate word from the Vatican on whether Francis would accept the resignation, which could remove Barbarin from his post as archbishop but leave him with the rank of cardinal.
Prosecutors in Lyon had previously investigated Barbarin but dropped the probe in mid-2016 without a detailed explanation. However, an association of alleged victims called Parole Liberee (Freed Word) used a provision of French law to compel the cardinal to stand trial.
"This will send a strong message to the Church and to the pope," said abuse victim Francois Devaux, applauding the verdict.
Barbarin's trial put Europe's senior clergy in the spotlight at a time when the pope is grappling with criticism over the Church's response to a sexual abuse crisis that has gravely damaged its standing around the globe.
(There's more, read on if you wish)
news.yahoo.com/french-cardinal-found-gui...abuse-092538150.html
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Texas Catholic dioceses reveal names of nearly 300 clergy accused of child abuse....it's never ending
www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/us/texas-catholic...sex-abuse/index.html
www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/us/texas-catholic...sex-abuse/index.html
| Another disgrace....the Pope finally admits it.... Pope Acknowledges Priests and Bishops Have Sexually Abused Nuns....the first time he has publicly acknowledged the issue. Even though the abuse of nuns gets less attention than the abuse of children and young men, it is not new. In the 1990s, as the child sex abuse crisis was starting to emerge in the United States, leaders of women’s religious orders wrote several reports calling attention to cases of priests abusing nuns.....read on.... www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/...ns-sexual-abuse.html |
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| Yes, more allegations....we'll never see an end to this in our lifetime.... French bishops agree to compensation for sex abuse victims.... Still struggling to come to terms with their share of responsibility in the clerical sex abuse scandal rocking the Catholic Church, France's bishops have agreed to award financial compensation to victims whose cases fall outside of France's statute of limitations. "We have agreed in principle to make a financial gesture," Vincent Neymon, head of communications for the French bishops'conference, told The Associated Press in an interview this week. He said he hoped to have a system for paying victims in place in less than a year. France has not been immune to the scandal that has prompted a credibility crisis for the Catholic hierarchy, and that is the topic of a summit at the Vatican this week on preventing sex abuse and prosecuting pedophile priests. Two years ago, an investigation by online publication Mediapart unearthed 342 cases of abuse over 50 years that French bishops were accused of covering up in France and abroad, involving at least 34 priests. Some were convicted, most were at least investigated. But some escaped punishment because the statute of limitations on sex crimes against minors, which was recently extended from 20 to 30 years after a victim turns 18, had run out. "Even after 20 or 30 years, one must be entitled to accuse the priests who might have committed such acts," Neymon said. "The faith of many has been damaged." www.yahoo.com/news/french-bishops-agree-...ctims-072446507.html |
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What a bunch of creeps .....
Cardinal says Catholic Church 'destroyed' documentation of sex abuse
"This is abuse of power by the administration," Cardinal Reinhard Marx told bishops at a Vatican summit on preventing sexual abuse....
www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cardinal-says...on-sex-abuse-n974941
Cardinal says Catholic Church 'destroyed' documentation of sex abuse
"This is abuse of power by the administration," Cardinal Reinhard Marx told bishops at a Vatican summit on preventing sexual abuse....
www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cardinal-says...on-sex-abuse-n974941
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700 cases of sexual abuse perpetrated by nearly 400 baptist church leaders of sexual abuse perpetrated by nearly 400 baptist church leaders....
An investigation of the Southern Baptist Convention by the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express-News reported more than 700 cases of sexual abuse perpetrated by nearly 400 church leaders going back to 1998.
After being accused, many perpetrators found new congregations where they could repeat their offenses against new victims.
For more than a decade, denominational leaders have ignored Southern Baptists’ pleas for an SBC sexual-offender registry.
The 15-million-member Southern Baptist Convention has been plagued in recent years by numerous public controversies and, by its own account, has suffered “a downward trend in both church membership and baptisms” for at least a decade.
Fortunately, the Catholic Church has provided the SBC with a case study in how not to respond to such revelations. Baptist leaders have an opportunity to learn from those missteps and respond differently.
The true threat to Southern Baptists is not what we know; it’s what has yet to be revealed.
Critics claim that the church’s theology creates an environment where women and children have limited agency and that there is often a culture of silence where challenging (all-male) leadership is seen as inappropriate and disrespectful. Ideas have consequences, and Southern Baptists must honestly explore whether their theological roots are bearing rotten fruit.
The question facing the SBC now is whether its leaders are prepared to do what it takes to start the process of reform.
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/0...buse-scandal/583111/
An investigation of the Southern Baptist Convention by the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express-News reported more than 700 cases of sexual abuse perpetrated by nearly 400 church leaders going back to 1998.
After being accused, many perpetrators found new congregations where they could repeat their offenses against new victims.
For more than a decade, denominational leaders have ignored Southern Baptists’ pleas for an SBC sexual-offender registry.
The 15-million-member Southern Baptist Convention has been plagued in recent years by numerous public controversies and, by its own account, has suffered “a downward trend in both church membership and baptisms” for at least a decade.
Fortunately, the Catholic Church has provided the SBC with a case study in how not to respond to such revelations. Baptist leaders have an opportunity to learn from those missteps and respond differently.
The true threat to Southern Baptists is not what we know; it’s what has yet to be revealed.
Critics claim that the church’s theology creates an environment where women and children have limited agency and that there is often a culture of silence where challenging (all-male) leadership is seen as inappropriate and disrespectful. Ideas have consequences, and Southern Baptists must honestly explore whether their theological roots are bearing rotten fruit.
The question facing the SBC now is whether its leaders are prepared to do what it takes to start the process of reform.
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/0...buse-scandal/583111/
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Catholic Archbishop, on His Hands and Knees, Begged for Forgiveness Over Abuse
The Archdiocese of Hartford released a list identifying 48 priests accused of sexual abuse, five of whom had served at St. George’s in Guilford, Connecticut.
GUILFORD, Conn. — When the Archdiocese of Hartford released a list this year identifying 48 priests accused of sexual abuse, five of them had served at the same church: St. George’s, in the small coastal town of Guilford. One had been a pastor there for more than a decade, baptizing children and hearing confessions.
Some in the large congregation were deeply hurt. Some fumed, saying they held onto Catholic teachings, but saw their faith in the men leading the church disintegrating amid a cascade of allegations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/nyregion/reparation-masses.html
(So glad to see they're all getting nailed (pun intended) with full exposure to the public, one by one) read on there's more....
The Archdiocese of Hartford released a list identifying 48 priests accused of sexual abuse, five of whom had served at St. George’s in Guilford, Connecticut.
GUILFORD, Conn. — When the Archdiocese of Hartford released a list this year identifying 48 priests accused of sexual abuse, five of them had served at the same church: St. George’s, in the small coastal town of Guilford. One had been a pastor there for more than a decade, baptizing children and hearing confessions.
Some in the large congregation were deeply hurt. Some fumed, saying they held onto Catholic teachings, but saw their faith in the men leading the church disintegrating amid a cascade of allegations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/nyregion/reparation-masses.html
(So glad to see they're all getting nailed (pun intended) with full exposure to the public, one by one) read on there's more....
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I'm updating this thread for another time. Another State revelation about the Church's clergy involved with pedophilia. There are more hundreds of clergy. When combined with the known cases of pedophilia clergy around the world is well into the tens of thousands. This is not just a few errant clergy, but a culture of pedophilia The latest state is Illinois..
CHICAGO — Nearly 400 Catholic clergy members in Illinois have been accused of sexual misconduct, according to attorneys who have represented clergy sex abuse victims across the U.S.
A 182-page report, published Wednesday by the Minnesota-based law firm Jeff Anderson and Associates, includes background information, photos and assignment histories of each accused clergy member.
“The danger of sexual abuse in Illinois is clearly a problem of today, not just the past,” the report concludes. “This will continue to be a danger until the identities and histories of sexually abusive clerics, religious employees and seminarians are made public.”
Anderson said he hopes the report will help push church leaders to publicly identify hundreds of more clergy who have faced allegations.
CHICAGO — Nearly 400 Catholic clergy members in Illinois have been accused of sexual misconduct, according to attorneys who have represented clergy sex abuse victims across the U.S.
A 182-page report, published Wednesday by the Minnesota-based law firm Jeff Anderson and Associates, includes background information, photos and assignment histories of each accused clergy member.
“The danger of sexual abuse in Illinois is clearly a problem of today, not just the past,” the report concludes. “This will continue to be a danger until the identities and histories of sexually abusive clerics, religious employees and seminarians are made public.”
Anderson said he hopes the report will help push church leaders to publicly identify hundreds of more clergy who have faced allegations.
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What kills me about this sh*t is that people are up in arms and don't want mosques built in their towns but a Catholic church, they have no problem with. Wonder if they'll reconsider their prejudices now. Massive amounts of little boys were abused by these priest who got away with it ! Imagine, people were asking pedophiles, who were committing one of the worlds's worst atrocities, to absolve them of their sins during confessions. Disgusting. Even more disgusting....the degree the Catholic diocese went to to cover this up and the mere slap on the wrists the perps got.
Lists of pedophile priests in N.J. by parishes was released. I read a week or so ago that someone killed one of those priests. I wondered if he was targeted because he was on the list or was it just a random murder. The news report didn't make that known.
Lists of pedophile priests in N.J. by parishes was released. I read a week or so ago that someone killed one of those priests. I wondered if he was targeted because he was on the list or was it just a random murder. The news report didn't make that known.
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Totally agree with you OED and this newest article in Canada...
Whoa, people are taking matters and actions against these priests into their own hands now....wonder if the suspect was and is a sexually abused member of the church, hmmmm...
| Priest stabbed during livestream of morning mass in Canada's largest church.... Father Claude Grou, the rector of the Saint Joseph's Oratory, was taken to the hospital and is said to be in stable condition. A 26-year-old man has been arrested after a priest in Montreal was stabbed Friday during a livestreamed morning mass in Canada's largest church. Father Claude Grou, 77, the rector of the Saint Joseph's Oratory, was taken to the hospital and is said to be in stable condition, according to the Archdiocese of Montreal. Authorities responded to a call around 8:40 a.m. and witnesses said a man went toward the priest with a sharp object during the daily mass at which 50 people were in attendance. The attack was captured on a livestream and television broadcast by the Catholic channel Salt + Light, which publishes the streams shortly after the mass. Authorities have not disclosed whether the footage will be released. When police arrived, the suspect was already detained by church security and the priest was slightly injured on his upper body, Montreal police spokesperson Caroline Chèvrefils said. The suspect was then taken into custody, transported to a detention center and will be interviewed by investigators later Friday, she said. "What a horrible and inexcusable gesture that has no place in Montreal." Mayor Valérie Plante tweeted. Grou was not "afraid for his life," tweeted Jasmin Lemieux-Lefebvre, director of communications for the Catholic Church of Quebec. Montreal Police said in a tweet Friday afternoon that this was an isolated incident and the suspect, who they did not identify, is expected to appear in court on Saturday. Saint Joseph's, which officially opened in 1956, is in Montreal's Mount Royal district and is Canada's biggest church. It is said to be one of the country's most popular tourist spots, with 2 million visitors per year. www.nbcnews.com/news/world/priest-stabbe...rgest-church-n986256 |