Muskrat
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Birds are not real….
The eternal question.....Did men walk on the Moon?
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I absolutely believe that Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. Too many people were involved in putting the Apollo into space and landing on the moon. Had that not happened, I am sure someone would have spilled the beans by now. Besides that, I would imagine that Russia and/or China probably tracked the spacecraft until it set down.
If I am not mistaken, it was JFK’s dream for the U.S. to be the first country to make a lunar landing and spacewalk on the moon and then return man back to earth.
When I visited Cape Canaveral, Florida, they showed plenty of evidence that the astronauts brought back, including pictures and videos, along with moon rocks, moon soil, etc. I guess if a production company wanted to fake out the public, they very well could have, but again, with all of these people involved to pull this off, what would keep just one person from talking, writing a book or making a movie about the “Great Conspiracy?”
If I am not mistaken, it was JFK’s dream for the U.S. to be the first country to make a lunar landing and spacewalk on the moon and then return man back to earth.
When I visited Cape Canaveral, Florida, they showed plenty of evidence that the astronauts brought back, including pictures and videos, along with moon rocks, moon soil, etc. I guess if a production company wanted to fake out the public, they very well could have, but again, with all of these people involved to pull this off, what would keep just one person from talking, writing a book or making a movie about the “Great Conspiracy?”
Rindee
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Again, they have lied about entire wars for decades......throughout history. I will never believe men walked on the moon. Have you see the video where a guy tries to get Armstrong to swear on the bible, that he walked on the moon? Armstrong refused to swear on it. I rest my case.
CallMeKate
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Sometimes we need to educate ourselves.... it goes a long way.https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...ot-proof-that-moon-landing-was-idUSL1N2RG249/
False: Video shows man exposing astronaut Neil Armstrong for the 'fake' moon landing. | Logically Facts
Apollo Astronauts and the Demand to Swear on the Bible
Fact Check: Neil Armstrong's Refusal to Swear on the Bible Does NOT Mean Moon Landing Was Fake | Lead Stories
Paco Dennis
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That’s not true. Someone did try to get Aldrin to swear on the Bible that he made a moon landing, but declined. He confronted the individual and called it a cheap stunt to grab attention that he wouldn’t take part in. (I would agree that he did the right thing.)
When people do stunts like that, they are trying to call out a person’s credibility. An honest, sincere person will walk away from a jerk trying to make a fiasco out of a serious situation. IOW, don’t take part in some sick whacko’s hallucination that he can make a buck off of another person’s vulnerability.
This is my last post on this issue. Believe what you want. It has no effect on my life.
Rindee
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I didn't go to high school, I was allowed to leave secondary education to pursue classical music studies, so, not sure what you are talking about, but wait, a debate on extending the school year? Omg....I'm sure teachers contested that one too lol!@Rindee I think it is fun and a great mental experiment to totally go for a conspiracy theory. It is like some of the weird debate questions you get in high s cool. It is a challenge to win the debate, not win popularity.
I won a debate on extending the school year!
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Brookswood
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Once again, thank you for making your position clear.
For those of you interested in our current reality, SpaceX will launch its sixth Starship test on 11/18 at 4:00 PM Eastern time. Another chance to watch them catch a landing rocket in the air before it hits the ground. Amazing stuff!
Paco Dennis
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Oh, it is with superior intellect that these special conspiracies arise. That is not uncommon in our world. Those with high IQ's get bored easily, and then enjoy making intricate realities out of the facts that surround a subject. Kind of like composing a symphony. It can sound like the "Rite of Spring" to some. LOL
Rindee
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I am more concerned as to why you wanted to extend the school year lol!! Now that, senor Paco, is a first. No, I believe what I believe, I don't buy into conspiracies. I was in 2nd grade and didn't believe it even then, still don't today, and never will.Oh, it is with superior intellect that these special conspiracies arise. That is not uncommon in our world. Those with high IQ's get bored easily, and then enjoy making intricate realities out of the facts that surround a subject. Kind of like composing a symphony. It can sound like the "Rite of Spring" to some. LOL
Paco Dennis
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I didn't "want" to extend the school year. Your smart enough to know the game you play. Life is boring without a good conspiracy. lol!
Ted51
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There are always conspiracy theories. I was in Dallas some years ago, at the spot where JFK was assassinated. It was a quiet evening. Only me and two guys outside the repository building, arguing about JFK and conspiracies.
I remember our school was sent home to watch the moon landing. I dutifully sat there in front of the black and white TV. For what seemed like hours. Nothing happened. I think they were asleep in the capsule?
I believe they did walk on the moon. Eventually... But then, to me, space is boring. I don't really care. Too much happening on Earth to be concerned with that.
I remember our school was sent home to watch the moon landing. I dutifully sat there in front of the black and white TV. For what seemed like hours. Nothing happened. I think they were asleep in the capsule?
I believe they did walk on the moon. Eventually... But then, to me, space is boring. I don't really care. Too much happening on Earth to be concerned with that.
HermitHogan
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Humans have walked on the Moon six times during the NASA Apollo program, between 1969 and 1972. These successful Moon landings were:
Apollo 11 (1969) – Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin became the first humans to walk on the Moon.
Apollo 12 (1969) – Pete Conrad and Alan Bean conducted two Moonwalks.
Apollo 14 (1971) – Alan Shepard and Edgar Mitchell explored the lunar surface.
Apollo 15 (1971) – David Scott and James Irwin conducted extensive exploration with the Lunar Roving Vehicle.
Apollo 16 (1972) – John Young and Charles Duke explored the highlands of the Moon.
Apollo 17 (1972) – Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt conducted the longest lunar exploration, marking the final manned mission to the Moon.
In total, 12 astronauts have walked on the lunar surface.
Or, were they all fake?
Apollo 11 (1969) – Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin became the first humans to walk on the Moon.
Apollo 12 (1969) – Pete Conrad and Alan Bean conducted two Moonwalks.
Apollo 14 (1971) – Alan Shepard and Edgar Mitchell explored the lunar surface.
Apollo 15 (1971) – David Scott and James Irwin conducted extensive exploration with the Lunar Roving Vehicle.
Apollo 16 (1972) – John Young and Charles Duke explored the highlands of the Moon.
Apollo 17 (1972) – Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt conducted the longest lunar exploration, marking the final manned mission to the Moon.
In total, 12 astronauts have walked on the lunar surface.
Or, were they all fake?
hollydolly
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Murrmurr
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...and sometimes the forget to take everyone with them, when they leave..
I might cry myself to sleep tonight.(Nah, that was a cool vid
)George1959
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Rindee, I like that you are critical. We would need a lot of more critical people.
I am always surprised how people can still believe that their government tells them the truth and wants only the best for them.
Talk is easy. How would you run "the governmment"?
David777
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After leaving late this morning after suggesting per post above members not feed this ridiculous troll like thread any member is of course free to do, then my spending 9 hours at an event to the north before returning this evening, I had a suspicion some of the same usual members that get baited into trying to argue topics like this would do so again, unable to resist. And the same few members that tend to thrive on identifying as believers of conspiracies, in fact yes jumped in to say, I do again, like they are on some kind of irritating conspiracy team to be proud of.
And of course the discussion against "we didn't land on the moon" went no where, convincing none of them as that is just as futile folks as trying to argue with someone pushing "the earth is flat" nonsense. Post links, offer common sense, negate their points for the nth time, call the position names, but don't expect them to actually read or even consider anything other than making responses to make those that can't resist do so more so they can stay up on their soap box and receive the satisfaction of a response. It is termed "sealioning".
Some on a conspiracy team of course actually believe what they are pushing because they just lack knowledge, have low intelligence, and or common sense. Others know their position is false but do so merely to irritate those that usually argue against whatever, sometimes for sport.
There are web sites where trolls and hackers talk about such tactics especially on the Dark Web. Real trolls of course make a game of these things then brag to others on boards with like others. It has been some years since I posted how trolls play their games so will do so again since many ordinary folk don't understand how such games are played.
8 Common Internet Trolling Tactics (And How to Handle Them) - Samantha North
This longer page includes notes on "trolling club websites" like on 4chan dot com.
What Is Trolling?
And of course the discussion against "we didn't land on the moon" went no where, convincing none of them as that is just as futile folks as trying to argue with someone pushing "the earth is flat" nonsense. Post links, offer common sense, negate their points for the nth time, call the position names, but don't expect them to actually read or even consider anything other than making responses to make those that can't resist do so more so they can stay up on their soap box and receive the satisfaction of a response. It is termed "sealioning".
Some on a conspiracy team of course actually believe what they are pushing because they just lack knowledge, have low intelligence, and or common sense. Others know their position is false but do so merely to irritate those that usually argue against whatever, sometimes for sport.
There are web sites where trolls and hackers talk about such tactics especially on the Dark Web. Real trolls of course make a game of these things then brag to others on boards with like others. It has been some years since I posted how trolls play their games so will do so again since many ordinary folk don't understand how such games are played.
8 Common Internet Trolling Tactics (And How to Handle Them) - Samantha North
This longer page includes notes on "trolling club websites" like on 4chan dot com.
What Is Trolling?
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Oh. I see. We dummies should just stand back so we ordinary folk don't screw up the arguments.
ElCastor
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Big Foot I doubt, but man walking on the Moon, Absolutely!Yes, I'm quite sure that you did.
George1959
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First and foremost: Free speech! Everybody should be allowed to criticize the government and all politicians.
Second: No NGOs and no lobbyism.
Third: No 'public private partnership' which means that companies intermingle with politics.
Forth: Strengthen the influence of parents over school boards, which will happen soon in your country.
Sixth: Less surveillance. We don't need cameras in all public places and streets, since this is not China.
No digital certificates on the cell phones.
No compulsory vaccination!
I would quit with all supernational organizations as WHO, WEF, GAVI etc.
No influence of the military industrial complex on the government.
Let's see how successful your and Argentina's new governments will be.
I am always open for further suggestions.
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JustDave
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If this is the eternal question, people don't have enough to talk about.
Mr. Ed
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I believe
Tazx
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Damn you nailed it! You have my vote!!