The Police Knee On The Neck Is Allowed!!

[fmdog44]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/
The way a Minneapolis police officer restrained George Floyd before he died — placing his knee on Floyd's neck while the man lay on his stomach — is widely discredited by law enforcement experts because it can cause suffocation.

But the technique is allowed in Minneapolis.

Wow! Here we go with constant debates if it is allowed was it murder? Why fire the cops? Why charge him with murder? These questions will smother the media now.

 

[rgp]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...aint-allowed-minneapolis-can-kill/5274334002/
The way a Minneapolis police officer restrained George Floyd before he died — placing his knee on Floyd's neck while the man lay on his stomach — is widely discredited by law enforcement experts because it can cause suffocation.

But the technique is allowed in Minneapolis.

Wow! Here we go with constant debates if it is allowed was it murder? Why fire the cops? Why charge him with murder? These questions will smother the media now.

Exactly .... If he was following department procedure ? Then there should be no charges.

 

[Kaila]

With multiple armed , trained policemen, and one un-armed suspect, who might have done a non-violent crime?

 

[Keesha]

If it’s allowed in Minneapolis and the technique kills people then they may want to reconsider their technique and if the victim shouts out he can’t breathe and bystanders shout out he can’t breathe and nothing was done, then clearly something went wrong. With a police officer doing this with his hand in his pocket like there wasn’t a care in the world speaks volumes also. It was video recorded for the world to see. Those who don’t see this have their own personal axe to grind.

 

[rgp]

With multiple armed , trained policemen, and one un-armed suspect, who might have done a non-vilent crime?

If that is department procedure ? And he chose to use it ? How can there be criminal charges ?

 

[rgp]

If it’s allowed in Minneapolis and the technique kills people then they may want to reconsider.

If that is what killed him ? .........I agree.

 

[Keesha]

If that is what killed him ? .........I agree.

According to the autopsy it is but I’m not a professional and neither are you,

 

[Aunt Marg]

If it’s allowed in Minneapolis and the technique kills people then they may want to reconsider their technique and if the victim shouts out he can’t breathe and bystanders shout out he can’t breathe and nothing was done, then clearly something went wrong. With a police officer doing this with his hand in his pocket like there wasn’t a care in the world speaks volumes also. It was video recorded for the world to see. Those who don’t see this have their own personal axe to grind.

And that's putting it mildly.

 

[Aunt Marg]

Exactly .... If he was following department procedure ? Then there should be no charges.

Kindly pull-up and post a copy of the Departments Procedures for us that clearly outlines that MURDER is authorized.

 

[rgp]

According to the autopsy it is but I’m not a professional and neither are you,

I never said or even indicated that I was ...........

 

[rgp]

Kindly pull-up and post a copy of the Departments Procedures for us that clearly outlines that MURDER is authorized.

I never said one thing about murder... I merely noted that the kneeling on the neck might be procedure ? If it is ? then there should be no charges IMO.

 

[Aunt Marg]

I never said one thing about murder... I merely noted that the kneeling on the neck might be procedure ? If it is ? then there should be no charges IMO.

Do you wear spectacles?

 

[rgp]

Do you wear spectacles?

HUH ? What does this have to do with anything ?

 

[Aunt Marg]

HUH ? What does this have to do with anything ?

I'm looking for just a simple yes or no answer to my question.

 

[Keesha]

I never said or even indicated that I was ...........

And neither did I . I was merely answering the question about how he died according to the professionals.

 

[Keesha]

I never said one thing about murder... I merely noted that the kneeling on the neck might be procedure ? If it is ? then there should be no charges IMO.

And if kneeling on a civilian with enough pressure to kill them is ‘procedure’ then clearly there’s something wrong with their procedure OR the person applying the procedure.

 

[rgp]

I'm looking for just a simple yes or no answer to my question.

Yes I wear glasses....Again, what does that have to do with anything?

And just a note.......You don't get to ask a question .... then specify how it is answered.

 

[Keesha]

Besides which, the ‘said’ man has already been charged and arrested for man slaughter.
https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/george-floyd’s-murderer-arrested.49600/

 

[rgp]

And if kneeling on a civilian with enough pressure to kill them is ‘procedure’ then clearly there’s something wrong with their procedure OR the person applying the procedure.

Procedure may need to be addressed ? OK fine, but charging this officer criminally is not the way. Address the procedure, change it if decided, then charge the next officer that wrongfully applies it.

 

[Keesha]

Procedure may need to be addressed ? OK fine, but charging this officer criminally is not the way. Address the procedure, change it if decided, then charge the next officer that wrongfully applies it.

Maybe you should suggest this to the Minnesota justice system.

 

[Kaila]

If that is department procedure ? And he chose to use it ?

Wouldn't it be required to be used only under appropriate circumstances?

 

[Aunt Marg]

Yes I wear glasses....Again, what does that have to do with anything?

And just a note.......You don't get to ask a question .... then specify how it is answered.

May I suggest you give the lenses a good cleaning and re-watch the video again, as the video clearly outlines the excessive application of a known restraining method that can result in death.

Reflecting on Department Procedures, and knowing that applying the knee restraint can kill, and knowing from the video that on more than one occasion, George Floyd, called out to Derek Chauvin, informing him that he could not breathe, would it be safe to say that Derek Chauvin, exceeded the knee restraint beyond a reasonable and acceptable period of time, knowing full well that death could result?

My answer is, YES, and not only did Derek Chauvin, see a man to his grave, Derek Chauvin, seen the needless death of George Floyd with total and absolute disdain, which is clearly apparent in the video, as Derek Chauvin, can be seen acting so casually with his left hand in his pocket as if to broadcast to all that he didn't have a care in the world for George Chauvin or his condition, which the video also clearly shows, as George's unanswered calls that he was having a difficult time breathing are repeatedly ignored.

I can't think of a better example of pure unadulterated murder.

 

[Aunt Marg]

Procedure may need to be addressed ? OK fine, but charging this officer criminally is not the way. Address the procedure, change it if decided, then charge the next officer that wrongfully applies it.

So let me get this straight, you are attempting to persuade us here right now to believe that the manner in which Derek Chauvin, applied the knee restraint was within Department Procedures, and violated not a single thing?

So ignoring the repeated calls from George Floyd, as to his inability to breathe, and continuing a sustained restraining technique that is well known to cause death, falls within the order of Department Procedures? I think not.

Aside from Derek Chauvin's life being in no present danger which is clearly apparent in the video, there was no reason whatsoever for George Floyd, to be restrained in the manner he was, nor with a restraining technique that is known to cause death, and/or for the extended period of time that he was. I highly doubt the Departments Procedures approve of and allow the use of such deadly measures and force to detain an otherwise harmless and zero-threat individual.

 

[Sunny]

I can't imagine any legitimate police department in this country having this kind of murder as a permissible "procedure." Maybe it can be employed with an armed suspect who is clearly posing a threat to others. And even then, just long enough to make him drop his weapon. What kind of monstrous law enforcement would justify killing an unarmed man pleading for his life like this? And Minneapolis, of all places? Something is rotten with that whole argument.

 

[rgp]

So let me get this straight, you are attempting to persuade us here right now to believe that the manner in which Derek Chauvin, applied the knee restraint was within Department Procedures, and violated not a single thing?

So ignoring the repeated calls from George Floyd, as to his inability to breathe, and continuing a sustained restraining technique that is well known to cause death, falls within the order of Department Procedures? I think not.

Aside from Derek Chauvin's life being in no present danger which is clearly apparent in the video, there was no reason whatsoever for George Floyd, to be restrained in the manner he was, nor with a restraining technique that is known to cause death, and/or for the extended period of time that he was. I highly doubt the Departments Procedures approve of and allow the use of such deadly measures and force to detain an otherwise harmless and zero-threat individual.

I am not trying to "persuade" you to anything....read before you comment. All I am saying is that it might be procedure ?? And if it is ? he should not be charged IMO....And if it is, perhaps the procedure needs to addressed & changed if their command sees fit to do so.