What do women really want?

asp3 said:
You've removed another bit of my ignorance, I hadn't heard the term totty before.

If so I'm completely unaware of it. I am often clueless when someone is attracted to me so from my point of view, I haven't found that many women who are attracted to me.
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You are too handsome for that to be true, in my humble opinion, unless the avatar is someone else's face, but it is possible, "like my good self perhaps, we're not aware how many are going weak at the knees" (?). 👭 .

This thought crossed my mind, and it is how much a partner/wife expects to know about day to day stuff. I do find it mildly irritating when one of my so called mates seems to want to know everything going on in your life, (or thrives on gossiping about you even, "whilst keeping their own cards very close to their chest).

A sister in law, and her mother/family seem to thrive on knowing every detail about my brothers life, and his five children's lives, if you know what I mean?. Lovely kids though they are, and my brother knows how to look after himself, and is undoubtedly master in his own home, (to use an old fashioned term). Still I'm a bit uneasy about those who appear " to want to live in one another's pockets".

("Totty" btw is a word used to tease mainly or exclusively females, though being called "Top totty", was certainly meant to be an accolade back in the day :))
 
asp3 said:
You've removed another bit of my ignorance, I hadn't heard the term totty before.

If so I'm completely unaware of it. I am often clueless when someone is attracted to me so from my point of view, I haven't found that many women who are attracted to me.
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I’m not attracted to you, nothing against you, of course. I apparently prefer fat old bald man with nasty dispositions. 🤣
 
What do women really want?


All wimin?
Heck if I know
Heck, I don't think they even know
...and where the hell is heck, anyway?

What I do know, is wimin cannot be lumped into one
Case in point;
Of the 105 posts since only yesterday, not too many are in agreement

Awhile back I wrote my thoughts here on wimin in general
Still pretty much think that way;

Wimin

The most mysterious beings of our planet

I found out long ago, about sixty years or so,
that gaining favor with the finer gender of our specie is not necessarily in my best interest.
Whole different frequency
Wired different
Fiber optic vs 9 gauge single conductor
Fascinating, mystical, attractive, you bet
Sensitivities I’d never remotely considered
But, hanging with a group of ladies?

Can’t

Mentally; exhausting

Socially; this ogre doesn’t stand a chance

Spiritually; beyond any reach I may have thought I had

Physically; like looking into the sun, can go blind if obsessing too long

Gaining favor?
Whimsical touches
Nothing of depth
Any more than that and I find myself precariously dangling off a mental precipice

I can do one, maybe two per sitting
and that is mostly because they sense my discomfort to the point of putting forth effort to discuss what I’m interested in
I’ve learned to pick up on this and placate for a bit, then find a way to excuse myself

I don’t avoid ladies, but have learned not to seek them out
It’s what shops are for

I’ve been fortunate

My lady has put up with me for half a century

When I become too much and I (for some unknown reason) anger her,
I found placing my calloused hand on the small of her back will still cause her to flinch
….and she begrudgingly forgives me

We have had this tryst, this romance that has yet to fade

She’s plenty for me

Forever


So, here I remain
Baffled, yet attracted at the mysteries, complexities
A sentry
A defender
A protector
A willing grunt

Keeping the fire

best I can




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“Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.” Emerson
 
Gary O' said:
What do women really want?
All wimin? Heck if I know
Heck, I don't think they even know...and where the hell is heck, anyway?
What I do know, is wimin cannot be lumped into one
Case in point; Of the 105 posts since only yesterday, not too many are in agreement A while back I wrote my thoughts here on wimin in general Still pretty much think that way;

Wimin

The most mysterious beings of our planet

I found out long ago, about sixty years or so,
that gaining favor with the finer gender of our specie is not necessarily in my best interest.
Whole different frequency
Wired different
Fiber optic vs 9 gauge single conductor
Fascinating, mystical, attractive, you bet
Sensitivities I’d never remotely considered
But, hanging with a group of ladies?

Can’t

Mentally; exhausting

Socially; this ogre doesn’t stand a chance

Spiritually; beyond any reach I may have thought I had

Physically; like looking into the sun, can go blind if obsessing too long

Gaining favor?
Whimsical touches
Nothing of depth
Any more than that and I find myself precariously dangling off a mental precipice

I can do one, maybe two per sitting
and that is mostly because they sense my discomfort to the point of putting forth effort to discuss what I’m interested in
I’ve learned to pick up on this and placate for a bit, then find a way to excuse myself

I don’t avoid ladies, but have learned not to seek them out
It’s what shops are for

I’ve been fortunate

My lady has put up with me for half a century

When I become too much and I (for some unknown reason) anger her,
I found placing my calloused hand on the small of her back will still cause her to flinch
….and she begrudgingly forgives me

We have had this tryst, this romance that has yet to fade

She’s plenty for me

Forever


So, here I remain
Baffled, yet attracted at the mysteries, complexities
A sentry
A defender
A protector
A willing grunt

Keeping the fire

best I can




lwlRsMo.png


“Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.” Emerson
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What has kept you, beginning to wonder where you've been? :censored:.

Never mind, here in full force, inimitable, indomitable, acuitive, pretty much exactly what a good many wimmin do really want I'd guess! 🙂 .
 
Shalimar said:
Fascinating view of women, a generational thing perhaps? Some of my older male clients may ascribe to this point of view, in part, but definitely not the ones under fifty something. “Woman as an archetype,” could be quite the paper, very controversial, of course. 😁
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I've done a bit of research, whilst the thread had a bit of a lull, (until Gary O's boost), and found a few comments in line with certainly many female members opinions, and a few male's views too on the forum, with what I suppose you'd call "mainstream expert opinion nowadays", (bit too boring to post I thought).

My favourite guru is Demond Morris, who at the age of ninety or so years, is still at it, (writing books I mean), and his latest book is " The naked man", I think its called. He gets slammed quite a lot these days for his views, can't tell you really why, but he does emphasise quite a lot the differences in perspective between the sexes, so maybe that's it(?).

Whatever anyone might think of Desmond's views, or the views of others, there is little enough doubt his views on divorce reform, or warnings about it way back in his first books studying human behaviour fifty years ago seem to have been borne out, and the chances those under fifties with their more youthful outlook will have marriages lasting as long as Mr &Mrs Morris did are not so great, and he described losing his wife last year as an amputation.
 
grahamg said:
I've done a bit of research, whilst the thread had a bit of a lull, (until Gary O's boost), and found a few comments in line with certainly many female members opinions, and a few male's views too on the forum, with what I suppose you'd call "mainstream expert opinion nowadays", (bit too boring to post I thought).

My favourite guru is Demond Morris, who at the age of ninety or so years, is still at it, (writing books I mean), and his latest book is " The naked man", I think its called. He gets slammed quite a lot these days for his views, can't tell you really why, but he does emphasise quite a lot the differences in perspective between the sexes, so maybe that's it(?).

Whatever anyone might think of Desmond's views, or the views of others, there is little enough doubt his views on divorce reform, or warnings about it way back in his first books studying human behaviour fifty years ago seem to have been borne out, and the chances those under fifties with their more youthful outlook will have marriages lasting as long as Mr &Mrs Morris did are not so great, and he described losing his wife last year as an amputation.
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Hmm, one thing comes to mind, for the younger people I support, their focus is more on maintaining healthy relationships rather than lauding length. That said, my millennial son has been with the same woman for seventeen years, and still going strong. They met while at university
 
A man who is a prince,

a provider,

a defender,

a poet,

a lover,

a best friend,

honest,

nondemanding,

complimentary,

cooperative,

communicative,

supportive,

lavish with her,

solid,

dependable,

a soul mate.

What men want is probably similar but men of all ages equate physical expressions of love with that emotion itself and as any woman can tell you - dream on. Lust is lust while love is something deeper and while one can beget the other, it isn't always the outcome.

Peace - Chic.

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Interesting viewpoint re mainstream expert opinion being boring. Oh, that gave me a chuckle, thanks for that, work is very stressful at present. Teaching classes on stress management through Covid, as well as grief work, very rewarding, but definitely in the trenches raw emotion, and

draining. I am so impressed with some of my male students, many 50+, who have embraced learning new pathways to deal with emotions and communication. Lots of tears in this virtual class, and it is lovely to see men and women supporting their own gender and the opposite sex as well. When

one sees beneath the masks we all wear, and our true selves emerge, many men and women are often more similar than than not. They/we yearn for peace, stability, health, a safe and decent livelihood, to belong somewhere, to be respected, heard, loved. Men and women often want the same things, but go about getting them quite differently.
 
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Shalimar said:
Interesting viewpoint re mainstream expert opinion being boring. Oh, that gave me a chuckle, thanks for that, work is very stressful at present. Teaching classes on stress management through Covid, as well as grief work, very rewarding, but definitely in the trenches raw emotion, and
draining. I am so impressed with some of my male students, many 50+, who have embraced learning new pathways to deal with emotions and communication. Lots of tears in this virtual class, and it is lovely to see men and women supporting their own gender and the opposite sex as well. When one sees beneath the masks we all wear, and our true selves emerge, many men and women are often more similar than than not. They/we yearn for peace, stability, health, a safe and decent livelihood, to belong somewhere, to be respected, heard, loved. Men and women often want the same things, but go about getting them quite differently.
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Well you did ask...........no I'll hang on before putting the boot into the thread with a load of expert speak, (my guru Desmond Morris is an expert too of course, but not flavour of the month for other experts by the look of it?).
 
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