Why is ________ the answer to life's meaning for you?

I'm pretty much on Knight's wave length on this topic. To me, science is not the answer to life's meaning, but it gives us the tools that can be used by a rational mind to edge closer to understanding what's what. Science does not demand that you accept anything, just because some ancient scholar wrote it. It is always subject to questioning, analysis, and sometimes rejection. As we learn more and more, our scientific theories change all the time. I so much prefer that as a guide to understanding life; I am encouraged to use my brain instead of being told what I should believe.

I think in the modern world, the only logical place for religion is in its humanism. If a religion teaches us to be kind, compassionate, peaceful, tolerant, and friendly to other people, kind to animals and to the planet, then it makes sense as a guide. Basing modern life on the Bible, just because somebody scared us into doing it, is not a way to give life "meaning."

OK, children, end of sermon.
 

I never believed there is answer. I take things as they come. Some folks have revelations that change their lives. So be it. Life is as difficult or as blissful as you make it.
 
1. I suppose religion has disparage more than it has succored.
We are not a static species, those events that swirl around our lives alter
our behavior.
Our history does not seem to be capable of humanism, our philosophers always come up short.
Is each of us to muddle through life as best we can?
I fear that is the answer, each one of us must determine the course of travel.
I have tried many, some have held me for a decade, half a decade, but none have satisfied
the many discontents I encountered, until I gave up.
Supply your own opinion on one that gives up, remembering that I was seventy years old.
Anyone that age has seen a lot, done a lot, much I would not care to remember.
I've been satisfied for the last two decades-the problems, oh yes. many real problems,
my response is as it has always been-very poor; however, I will persevere because I have help.
 

Well, 'Now For something completely different.' Take a deep breath folks and relax. You live in a country where you enjoy greater freedom than any other nation.
I enjoy reading about the 'thought police' of Stalin's Era. We don't have that, I suppose it could happen, but it would be very difficult.
I think our people are too crazed to be shackled.
Knowledge of what happened, or what is happening in outer countries does not harm
So post as you will, Oh, you don't know what is provocative and what is not-keep posting, the Adm folk will educate you.
Okay, all better now...............................................
 
jerry r. garner said:
Well, 'Now For something completely different.' Take a deep breath folks and relax. You live in a country where you enjoy greater freedom than any other nation.

I enjoy reading about the 'thought police' of Stalin's Era. We don't have that, I suppose it could happen, but it would be very difficult.
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We do live where we enjoy greater freedom but not total freedom. As for Stalin's era & thought police getting into politics is not allowed. So I'll just stick with how political correctness & tearing down symbols of our past have become the thinking process.
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I think our people are too crazed to be shackled.

What does that mean?
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Knowledge of what happened, or what is happening in outer countries does not harm
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True. Knowledge is the basis for decision making that affect us as individuals. But what you come to believe isn't necessarily the truth for others.

So post as you will, Oh, you don't know what is provocative and what is not-keep posting, the Adm folk will educate you.

Okay, all better now...............................................

Provocative within the guidelines is what makes exchanging thoughts interesting.
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I understand the no politics rule; however, the line between history and politics is dim (thinks I)
I had a great post that said a great deal about us: When we are ill, fear were close to death, we do a lot of thinking-Only After WE have Called
the Doctor.
(Note: Watch it boy, your talking politics here! Think before you post)
 
jerry r. garner said:
I understand the no politics rule; however, the line between history and politics is dim (thinks I)
I had a great post that said a great deal about us: When we are ill, fear were close to death, we do a lot of thinking-Only After WE have Called
the Doctor.
(Note: Watch it boy, your talking politics here! Think before you post)
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"As for Stalin's era & thought police getting into politics is not allowed. So I'll just stick with how political correctness & tearing down symbols of our past have become the thinking process."

Political correctness or destruction of symbols of our past have nothing to do with politics. It's about the thinking process.

But this is getting away from the op's question, so I think it best to discontinue our exchange.
 
This was originally hypochondriacs posting. He filled in the blank with Christianity. I’m a Christian and had no problem with it but I believe others did. It is difficult to be a Christian nowadays there’s a lot of persecution I don’t preach to other people but I’ve got to say it works for me and when you discover something that’s awesome for you you want others to hear about it in my case I actually love other people and I want people to be as happy as I am I’m not trying to preach to anybody I know it’s a pain in the neck that people do that and I can’t stand it either but I wanted to share what I was thinking.
 
I'm a Christian also, but to say that it's "difficult to be a Christian nowadays" would sound better if saying it's "difficult to be a (any religion) nowadays. I assume from what I read and see that people of all faiths (or none at all) suffer discrimination , some more and some less, depending where they're standing at the moment.

I have to confess, that I'm somewhat of a relapsed Christian or as our pastor used to say about family members who failed to show up on Sunday, "a Home Baptist"😟 Criticism comes from all directions and flows in all directions. I choose to let folks follow their own path (regarding religion, or lack of same). I have enough of a struggle stumbling along my own path!!
 
Lc jones said:
This was originally hypochondriacs posting. He filled in the blank with Christianity. I’m a Christian and had no problem with it but I believe others did. It is difficult to be a Christian nowadays there’s a lot of persecution I don’t preach to other people but I’ve got to say it works for me and when you discover something that’s awesome for you you want others to hear about it in my case I actually love other people and I want people to be as happy as I am I’m not trying to preach to anybody I know it’s a pain in the neck that people do that and I can’t stand it either but I wanted to share what I was thinking.
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Celebrating or enjoying your faith and expressing that as being happy beats the way some post about their miserable families or in-laws.
 
DaveA said:
I'm a Christian also, but to say that it's "difficult to be a Christian nowadays" would sound better if saying it's "difficult to be a (any religion) nowadays. I assume from what I read and see that people of all faiths (or none at all) suffer discrimination , some more and some less, depending where they're standing at the moment.

I have to confess, that I'm somewhat of a relapsed Christian or as our pastor used to say about family members who failed to show up on Sunday, "a Home Baptist"😟 Criticism comes from all directions and flows in all directions. I choose to let folks follow their own path (regarding religion, or lack of same). I have enough of a struggle stumbling along my own path!!
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I respectfully disagree
 
Lc jones said:
Much of the prejudice nowadays is specifically directed toward Christians but as the Bible says persecution is to be expected it just comes with the territory.
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Ridiculous. So is a need to feel persecuted. You guys are in the overwhelming majority here. Saying 'happy holidays' instead of 'merry xmas' does not mean persecution. Means paranoia and attention seeking.
 
Pepper said:
Ridiculous. So is a need to feel persecuted. You guys are in the overwhelming majority here. Saying 'happy holidays' instead of 'merry xmas' does not mean persecution. Means paranoia and attention seeking.
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You’ve just proved the Bible correct
 
Lc jones said:
You’ve just proved the Bible correct
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Is someone threatening your life for your adherence to your religion? Are you being escorted out of town for it's practice? Were you denied employment? Housing? Are there laws being passed against you? Were you hung upside down and crucified like Peter? No, because that is persecution and you don't know the meaning of the word. In fact, you cheapen it's meaning for people who are persecuted.

So, where and how do you feel you are being persecuted? Is it because when you whine, folks tell you to shut up? Be specific.
 
Pepper and LC
Slack off, I think the powers that be are itching to close this thread.
When your bacon is burned, send a message, of course that too will probably be discussed.
Dealing with folks is difficult, I never got it down pat.
 
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I’d like to apologize for adding humour to the last thread about religion. It was inappropriate.

Seeing members arguing is horrible but adding humour wasn’t the solution.

I’ve got no issues with others expressing their religious beliefs and will opt out of the threads next time.

Sorry if any of my words were hurtful to my fellow members.
 
Keesha, There was nothing offensive or inappropriate about your comment, you just happened to be holding the hot potato when the music stopped. I'd guess most of us were stunned that thread wasn't closed months earlier.

This thread may not last much longer either because people get at least as worked up about religion as we do politics. Looking back over who has posted what on this thread (myself included), I see the usual suspects making the usual arguments. Not one person said, "Hmmmm... maybe you're right. Maybe I should rethink my religious positions. Let me do a little research and get back to you."

Instead we support allies for our own positions and gather ammunition to attack opposing ones, then sit in our respective corners and defend to the death. That's why I said in post #19 ^^^, "If this turns into a religious forum I'll likely find myself spending less and less time here."

Debating religion has ceased to be interesting. Learning about religions including what they believe and how they evolved, yes. Debating them and the consequences for not swallowing every morsel, chapter and verse? Nope.
 
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The problem of discussing religion is believers. Believers believe. Believers have full and absolute trust in their beliefs. So, it's hard to argue with that. I make no bones that I'm an Atheist. I used to debate whether there is a deity. That debate is useless. There's no common ground. The best we can do is to respect that the other is sincere, and to respect each others views. As long as there is no coercion, we can live peacefully with each other
 
Keesha said:
I’d like to apologize for adding humour to the last thread about religion. It was inappropriate.

Seeing members arguing is horrible but adding humour wasn’t the solution.

I’ve got no issues with others expressing their religious beliefs and will opt out of the threads next time.

Sorry if any of my words were hurtful to my fellow members.
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Yes it can be hurtful when someone laughs at your beliefs, I appreciate your apology. ❤️
 
Keesha said:
I’d like to apologize for adding humour to the last thread about religion. It was inappropriate.

Seeing members arguing is horrible but adding humour wasn’t the solution.

I’ve got no issues with others expressing their religious beliefs and will opt out of the threads next time.

Sorry if any of my words were hurtful to my fellow members.
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