Why women are so bossy,...., making the case for this, (apologies to those not so!)

Men are in a difficult position because they know they need women more than women need them. I think this is what is behind so many attacks on women, both verbal and physical.
Most women are attracted to a man in uniform. Why? Because it represents authority and strength. Sadly, it doesn't always represent the man wearing it. Most women are frustrated because they have to be strong and take responsibility for everything, when they feel that it is actually the role of the men.
 

Warrigal said:
I object to being induced to click on a site like that because that is how they fund their nonsense.
And no, I do not think it is a serious quiz without even looking at it.
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May we agree on "a not very serious quiz", (even without your looking at it), and then anyone willing to have a go doesn't need to take the findings very seriously either, and everyone's a winner, (including the site inducing folks to have a go as you say! :) ).
 
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Pepper said:
How Bossy Are You? You are slightly pushy. While you're not necessarily bossy, you like to talk others into seeing your way as the right way. You often like to be in control of choosing activities and making decisions. When you can't be in control, you at least like to be heard.

Slightly Pushy Those questions were goofy. I was 99% bossy but now I'm a shadow of my former self!​

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Only slightly pushy, so you're no where near the mark when it comes to bossiness! :)
 

Here is a flavour of the kinds of questions asked on a "not very serious bossiness quiz", (kids stuff really!):

  1. You were stuck on an island which role would you be most likely to perform?
    • The leader, taking control and advising and directing everyone to safety
    • The follower, you would listen to advice and take it on board, trying to help everyone
    • The calm, you have a few ideas to help yet you allow other to lead, you are the optimist everyone needs in the situation
  2. You are out with your group of friends eating lunch when scary looking older man storms up to you and demands you give him your food, he is healthy looking, you...
    • are quite frightened and look to your friends to see have they have reacted and do the same
    • Quickly make up your decision on how to handle this and tell your friends to do the same
    • think about what would be the right thing to do and go with your thoughts, allowing your friends to handle it how they think is best.
  3. You are asked what pizza topping everyone would like best, when you are with friends, you...
    • already know what you want and make sure that at least one pizza includes it
    • listen to what your friends would prefer and agree with whatever suits you best of their decisions
    • offer a few ideas but don't mind what pizza you eat, you are just trying to be helpful
  4. When arriving at a big party you...
    • make an entrance, everyone must notice you've arrived
    • arrive with a big group of friends and go wherever they go
    • don't intend to make a grand entrance, but everyone notices you and comes to greet you
  5. When in a troubled situation you..
    • are always quick to take lead and responsibility
    • look to others for help and directions
    • try to help out as much as is needed
  6. When it comes to tests you...
    • study your hardest and are there to help others with your positive thinking, exams don't really stress you out
    • tell everyone when and how to study and prepare, making sure you get the best results
    • freak out completely and look to your friends for comfort
 
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Serenity4321 said:
hmmmm.
I like quizes and attempted this one but received the phony alert warning instead
'your computer has been locked down' :confused:
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Oh dear, we're not doing very well finding a bona fide, all singing, all dancing, half way serious bossiness quiz website! :(

I did think it quite interesting to learn there were so many though, proving it is a question a lot of people wish to consider (obviously)!
 
Serenity4321 said:
Then there are the clever women who get men to do what they want by convincing them it was their idea in the first place..and that is often a fun game.
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In my book a manipulator is a sociopath, not cute or fun. Kind of like those that tell "white lies" for...whatever reason they use as a justification....they still are liars.

Serenity4321 said:
Often too the men know they are being manipulated and do not mind.
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I would amend that to say "too stupid" rather than "do not mind."
 
Speaking as a man who has had two women bosses during my career, I found both of them to be easy to work with, competent, and better that the two men they replaced. My observations are limited to these two examples as bosses. I was rather angry when the company we worked for let the senior of the two get hired away by another company.
I have also had over a hundred women work for me at various places and was pleased with their performance. They often do things a bit differently from men, but that was not a problem.
 
Nathan said:
In my book a manipulator is a sociopath, not cute or fun. Kind of like those that tell "white lies" for...whatever reason they use as a justification....they still are liars.


I would amend that to say "too stupid" rather than "do not mind."
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LOL Nathan...you really see women using their 'charms' ( doesn't have to be sexual) to get a man to do what they want is acting like a sociopath??
In fact I think many men have been manipulated with little harm to anyone and often an ego boost for the man. Nothing wrong with that!
I disagree stupidity is always the reaction to a man 'catching on' and accepting the behavior...I do think many would think it is cute and clever...

edit..lol I got a ****** when I posted my s word
 
Serenity4321 said:
LOL Nathan...you really see women using their 'charms' ( doesn't have to be ******) to get a man to do what they want is acting like a sociopath??
In fact I think many men have been manipulated with little harm to anyone and often an ego boost for the man. Nothing wrong with that!
I disagree stupidity is always the reaction to a man 'catching on' and accepting the behavior...I do think many would think it is cute and clever...

edit..lol I got a ****** when I posted my s word,
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Yep, using people and trying to call it "charms" is some kind of convoluted thinking, and is on par with being sociopathic.

I do think many would think it is cute and clever...
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I can only imagine what a low regard you have, for the male of the species.
 
Serenity wrote:
"LOL Nathan...you really see women using their 'charms' ( doesn't have to be ******) to get a man to do what they want is acting like a sociopath??
In fact I think many men have been manipulated with little harm to anyone and often an ego boost for the man. Nothing wrong with that!
I disagree stupidity is always the reaction to a man 'catching on' and accepting the behavior...I do think many would think it is cute and clever...

edit..lol I got a ****** when I posted my s word,"
Nathan said:
Yep, using people and trying to call it "charms" is some kind of convoluted thinking, and is on par with being sociopathic.
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"Serenity wrote:
"I do think many would think it is cute and clever..."
Nathan said:
I can only imagine what a low regard you have, for the male of the species.
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I'm more in agreement with Serenity,...., though whilst saying that I believe I do understand your comments too, and have had first hand experience of the very negative aspects or sides of the issues you've described too, (apologies for taking such a contradictory position there! :) ).
 
grahamg said:
I'm more in agreement with Serenity,...., though whilst saying that I believe I do understand your comments too, and have had first hand experience of the very negative aspects or sides of the issues you've described too, (apologies for taking such a contradictory position there! :) ).
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No apologies necessary, contradictory positions are the product of thorough investigations. ;)
 
Nathan said:
No apologies necessary, contradictory positions are the product of thorough investigations. ;)
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I hadn't thought of it that way before, but I'll take the compliment and try to think a little more about the things you said.

Ultimately if the person you take up the aisle is in any way playing tricks of the kind outlined above then everybody present at the wedding ceremony is being fooled you'd have to say, though I keep hearing the statement, "No one walks up the aisle not believing their marriage will last a lifetime", (something I doubt very much is the case nowadays!).
 
Nathan said:
Yep, using people and trying to call it "charms" is some kind of convoluted thinking, and is on par with being sociopathic.

I can only imagine what a low regard you have, for the male of the species.
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One of the problems with boards like this is the limited time we have and how easy it is to misunderstand, misinterpret, and judge anothers' comments while not really knowing the person or understanding the real meaning behind what was said.
LOL you can't be more wrong about me on this. I love men!! I always have and always had more male friends than female..I think the games men and women play are often flirty and fun.

I am hoping and thinking we are referring to different examples of 'using' ..there are indeed sciopaths who use people in certain circumstances but there are also manipulations, maybe I should have used interactions, between couples that are not harmful and only have good results.
I seriously think we are not on the same 'wave length' on this... :unsure: :)
 
grahamg said:
I hadn't thought of it that way before, but I'll take the compliment and try to think a little more about the things you said.

Ultimately if the person you take up the aisle is in any way playing tricks of the kind outlined above then everybody present at the wedding ceremony is being fooled you'd have to say, though I keep hearing the statement, "No one walks up the aisle not believing their marriage will last a lifetime", (something I doubt very much is the case nowadays!).
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I agree with your marriage comment... it seems kids these days think they will try it and if it does not 'work out' they can split. I also think the lack of taking marriage as seriously as generations did before, is the reason fewer are getting married and living together instead. The stigma of being unmarried and living together seems to have vanished..
and..there is another side where abused and very unhappy people stay married for the children or due to a sense of obligation for their vows.
 
Alligatorob said:
Sure some are, some men too. Never really thought about why, some of the people I like are bossy, I just don't always listen.
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"Bossy" beats "sneaky" every time doesn't it, (sneaky means where people appear to be trying to be reasonable with everyone whilst at the same time trying to get the better of us all :( !).
 
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Pecos said:
Speaking as a man who has had two women bosses during my career, I found both of them to be easy to work with, competent, and better that the two men they replaced. My observations are limited to these two examples as bosses. I was rather angry when the company we worked for let the senior of the two get hired away by another company.
I have also had over a hundred women work for me at various places and was pleased with their performance. They often do things a bit differently from men, but that was not a problem.
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You've done well in both regards, those working for you and in charge of you, (on a very small site I had about half a dozen young women I managed who were excellent too, and only the odd one who for whatever reason didn't fit in with the other girls or men so well, though were good workers on their own).
 
Serenity4321 said:
I agree with your marriage comment... it seems kids these days think they will try it and if it does not 'work out' they can split. I also think the lack of taking marriage as seriously as generations did before, is the reason fewer are getting married and living together instead. The stigma of being unmarried and living together seems to have vanished..
and..there is another side where abused and very unhappy people stay married for the children or due to a sense of obligation for their vows.
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Do you think both these things go together concerning marriage?

More married couples split up, (maybe leaving marriages more than once), it becomes the norm so that the stigma of being unmarried and living together disappears, and there isn't the same expectancy a marriage will last, so more and more choose divorce over sorting out what might be wrong with the marriage.

We can't get away from the fact so many of us have found our marriages fell apart and thing became intolerable for either party, so maybe its even better for us that the stigma mentioned above has lessened or disappeared, but the love lorn world we've found ourselves living in, (maybe I'm overstating things there!), or perhaps the jeopardy surrounding marriage, love not being expected to last and so on, means many "injured parties", who did truly love their spouses, will continue to rise in numbers in western societies.

What's all this musing got to do with bossiness I'm now asking myself, (nothing! :) )?
 
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