Why should Obama leave? There has been no vote on his services, it was all about the Congress. If Obama would just back down to what our Constitution says about who is the final boss, the Congress, there would be no problems at all. Unfortunately he so far is still speaking as if his inflated ego is more important that our Congress.
Yahoo, we won!, we won!
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Why should Obama leave? There has been no vote on his services, it was all about the Congress. If Obama would just back down to what our Constitution says about who is the final boss, the Congress, there would be no problems at all. Unfortunately he so far is still speaking as if his inflated ego is more important that our Congress.
Davey Jones
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Me think the other 60% didnt even know there was an election.
QuickSilver
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It will be much different in 2016. Midterms are always low turnout... Seem like only the hard base turns out or even pays attention. That and coupled with the fact the Dems had to defend seats in Red States. The tables will be turned in 2016 and put on steroids.. with Reps having to defend seats in blue and purple states. 24 seats to be exact. THAT and the fact that it's a Presidential election will make a huge difference. Til then? The filibuster and the veto will be our saving grace.
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Empire State Building in New York City shines red as the Republican Party takes control of Congress.
Hope they're stocking up on lots of BLUE light bulbs for 2016!
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just because they won entitles them to no special privileges
Absolutely... and they will have to produce despite filibusters and vetos! Or the voters will wonder why they are so ineffectual..
and if the dems filibusters and veto bills that create jobs what will the voters think and do then ???
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None of the bills the House has come up with YET is a job bill... The Keystone pipeline? Hah!! 2000 temporary jobs and less than 50 permanent jobs.. Tax cuts for Corporations? yeah... we've seen how well that works.. If they come up with a REAL jobs bill, like an infrastructure bill.. it won't be filibustered or vetoed.. So let's see them come up with something that will ACTUALLY create good jobs.. not just minimum wage or temporary ones.
the job bills are still sittin' on Reids desk. everyone of em marked DOA. why???
Falcon
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Why are you challenging them? As long as they're in; you should be wishing them good luck.
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I wanted to vote YES to a republic last time but the wording of the referendum turned me off. The people would have had no say in choosing the president at all and I, like many other republic favouring Australians, was suspicious of the motive. It was a minimalist model which basically just changed the title of Governor General to President, without clarifying the powers of the Executive.Ameriscot said:
I would actually prefer something like the Irish model. I remember Mary Robinson very well and would like a non partisan president who could embody the spirit of the nation for a time.
What I don't want is a political hack being rewarded for services to the party nor someone chosen because they were a popular captain of the Australian XI team. I'd like some say in the matter with a choice from a number of worthy candidates.
What we needed last time was a plebiscite that just asked "Do you favour the establishment of an Australian republic?" and if the answer was a majority YES in a majority of states we could then have set up a commission to look at different models to put before the people prior to making the necessary changes to the constitution. However, our PM of the day was a royalist and IMO he set things up to fail.
I don't think I will see it changed in my lifetime and in many ways it doesn't make a lot of difference. Australia is a sovereign nation now but the symbolic tie to Britain via the monarchy is very anachronistic. I have nothing against Britain and the Royal Family at all. I quite like both but if the death of Diana taught me anything, it is that the Royal Family belongs to the British people, and vice versa. We are but distant onlookers to that relationship.
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Because they aren't JOBS bills... they are givaways to the rich...and unfair trade bills. as usual.. Let them come up with something that is going to help the poor and middle class... and I'm sure the Dems will let it pass.. If not.. then just more gridlock.
Here's the list of completely unacceptable crap that's come out of the House so far.
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/gops-claim-house-passed-30-jobs-bills-bogus
Denise1952
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There is hope for America yet! Republicans took control of the senate, increased seats in the house, and elected more state governors.
I know this is an ultra liberal forum but thankfully the country elected conservatives this time.
I'm pleased, I lean more toward conservatives. I hope people can be good sports if they are more liberal.
My Aussie sis in law is always complaining about your current PM.
I'm not a royalist at all. Brits are just reluctant to let go of tradition. But a tradition based on accident of birth does not belong in 21st century. I delayed getting UK citizenship 4 years past when I was eligible because I did not want to pledge allegiance to the queen and her heirs. My dh has never let me hear the end of it.
QuickSilver
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I think the Republicans poisoned that well over the last 6 years. They can probably expect liberals to be about as good of sports as they have been since Obama was elected. It's not any less than they deserve.
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Hahahah George....You have been sold a bill of goods friend. Open your eyes. the GOP wants the pipeline for BIG OIL PROFITS!! They couldn't care less about jobs or the damage it will do to the environment. So YES... only 35 permanent jobs... I ask again.. is it worth it?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/energys...how-many-jobs-will-be-created-by-keystone-xl/
In January of 2010, Trans-Canada CEO Russell Girling claimed that the project would produce 13,000 construction jobs. In April of 2011 the number grew to 20,000, which the Canadian Ambassador reiterated in August 2011. In January 2012 the number was revised back down to 13,000 and this past April the company revised that number even lower, to 9,000 construction jobs. Meanwhile, both the federal government and the Global Labor Institute at Cornell University’s College of Industrial and Labor Relations examined TransCanada’s application and made their own job creation estimates, at 6,000-6,500 and 2,500-4,500 respectively. A State Department study projects only 35 permanent jobs in pipeline maintenance and inspection. Although it seems likely that the Keystone XL Pipeline’s application will eventually be approved by the Obama Administration, firmer numbers will not be available until the project gets underway.
Denise1952
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First of all, all republicans aren't bad people, second of all, if someone else makes an ass out of themselves you're telling me you want to be like them? People that act like asses only make themselves look bad, not other people.
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The last 6 years have done nothing to prove to me that they aren't.. Until they start acting differently... I'll stick to my assessment.
Denise1952
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So it's all about "they". Well good luck with your assessment.
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Thank you... I'm fine with it.