George Floyd was a victim

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It was not his criminal record that got him killed......it was his resistance to the arrest.






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No, it was the fact that a lunatic cop decided to become judge, jury, and executioner, killing a man for no reason at all, and his eager defenders (defender?) are using the counterfeit money story as a diversionary tactic.

The fact is, it doesn't matter whether he had a past criminal record or if he was Mother Theresa. The cop had no business assaulting and murdering him like that. See if you can focus on that fact, which is central to this whole argument.
 
It very much applies, rgp, but you don't want to admit it.

Let's go one step further: let's say the guy had just passed counterfeit bills, the evidence was overwhelming. I have two questions for you.

1. Do you think anyone who passes counterfeit bills, knowingly or not, should be arrested? Are you sure you have never unwittingly had a phony bill in your wallet, which you innocently used? If spotted, should you have been dragged out of your car, assaulted, and murdered?

2. If you feel that arresting Floyd was justified for whatever reason, do you also feel that the actions taken by the police were justified? Being held down for 9 minutes by an armed cop and gruesomely asphyxiated, while he was begging to be allowed to breathe? And a group of other armed policemen stood around watching, making no attempt to stop the murder? Was there no other way to humanely calm this prisoner down and bring him in for questioning?

In other words, are the police justified in acting like murderous brutes?

Before you tell me that this scenario doesn't apply, which seems to be your go-to strategy when you've backed yourself into a corner, see if you can answer these two questions. I'd be very curious to hear your answer.
 
Sunny said:
It very much applies, rgp, but you don't want to admit it.

Let's go one step further: let's say the guy had just passed counterfeit bills, the evidence was overwhelming. I have two questions for you.

1. Do you think anyone who passes counterfeit bills, knowingly or not, should be arrested? Are you sure you have never unwittingly had a phony bill in your wallet, which you innocently used? If spotted, should you have been dragged out of your car, assaulted, and murdered?

2. If you feel that arresting Floyd was justified for whatever reason, do you also feel that the actions taken by the police were justified? Being held down for 9 minutes by an armed cop and gruesomely asphyxiated, while he was begging to be allowed to breathe? And a group of other armed policemen stood around watching, making no attempt to stop the murder? Was there no other way to humanely calm this prisoner down and bring him in for questioning?

In other words, are the police justified in acting like murderous brutes?

Before you tell me that this scenario doesn't apply, which seems to be your go-to strategy when you've backed yourself into a corner, see if you can answer these two questions. I'd be very curious to hear your answer.
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I'm not going to waste my time debating you non-applicable scenarios.

I am not backed into any corner, I stand by all I have said.

He fought the law & the law won.
 
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Sunny said:
It very much applies, rgp, but you don't want to admit it.

Let's go one step further: let's say the guy had just passed counterfeit bills, the evidence was overwhelming. I have two questions for you.

1. Do you think anyone who passes counterfeit bills, knowingly or not, should be arrested? Are you sure you have never unwittingly had a phony bill in your wallet, which you innocently used? If spotted, should you have been dragged out of your car, assaulted, and murdered?

2. If you feel that arresting Floyd was justified for whatever reason, do you also feel that the actions taken by the police were justified? Being held down for 9 minutes by an armed cop and gruesomely asphyxiated, while he was begging to be allowed to breathe? And a group of other armed policemen stood around watching, making no attempt to stop the murder? Was there no other way to humanely calm this prisoner down and bring him in for questioning?

In other words, are the police justified in acting like murderous brutes?

Before you tell me that this scenario doesn't apply, which seems to be your go-to strategy when you've backed yourself into a corner, see if you can answer these two questions. I'd be very curious to hear your answer.
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It only applies because you want it to.....but you don't want to admit it.
 
rgp said:
I'm not going to wast my time debating you non-applicable scenarios.

I am not backed into any corner, I stand by all I have said.

He fought the law & the law won.
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What is "non-applicable?" If you think my first question in note # 304 was too hypothetical, how about answering the second question? I described exactly what happened, which we all saw on that excruciating video that was broadcast again and again. Are you going to duck that question also, because it requires you to look at the hard truth?
 
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Exactly ! That's why he should be expected (we) are expected to surrender to the arrest ... and fight it out in court.
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Handcuffed the proper way with his hands cuffed behind him. How much more surrendering is there? Kind of hard to fight it out in court when your dead because a police office kept you face down with a knee on your neck & back until you took your last breath.
 
Sunny said:
It very much applies, rgp, but you don't want to admit it.

Let's go one step further: let's say the guy had just passed counterfeit bills, the evidence was overwhelming. I have two questions for you.

1. Do you think anyone who passes counterfeit bills, knowingly or not, should be arrested? Are you sure you have never unwittingly had a phony bill in your wallet, which you innocently used? If spotted, should you have been dragged out of your car, assaulted, and murdered?
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It would be nice if RGP could see. He must be blind because two videos show what took place

The 5 minute video showing another male in the front seat with the passenger door open doesn't seem like Floyd was in a hurry to leave. I think it's reasonable to expect a person that knowingly just passed a counterfeit $20.00 bill to leave quickly. Clear is two officers come over got two people out of the car, Floyd doesn't run. Floyd gets out of the car, is handcuffed and is seen sitting against a wall.

Next video Floyd is on the ground begging for his life.

I'd bet both will be used in court proceedings.
 
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rgp said:
Your big on the cops in family aspect aren't ya ?..........
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Yes. It's usually the reason why people will defend any cop's actions, regardless of how it makes them look.
And, by the way, it's "You're big on the cops-in-family aspect."
Would you happen to be a retired cop?
 
rgp said:
I'm not going to wast my time debating you non-applicable scenarios.

I am not backed into any corner, I stand by all I have said.

He fought the law & the law won.
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When did you retire from police work? You certainly spell like a cop. :LOL:
 
Sunny said:
What is "non-applicable?" If you think my first question in note # 304 was too hypothetical, how about answering the second question? I described exactly what happened, which we all saw on that excruciating video that was broadcast again and again. Are you going to duck that question also, because it requires you to look at the hard truth?
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The hard truth is simply ........he engaged with police several times over his criminal career , and finally he lost.
 
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