Who Won't Opt For The Vaccine

Aunt Marg said:
Excellent point.

My guess is, testing of subjects with an array of different medications in them was not included in the study.

My way of thinking is, and from the standpoint of scientists behind the drug, let's get this thing developed and out NOW, and we'll worry about the small stuff (side-effects) later.
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Pretty much sums it up!!!:(
 

StarSong said:
Beautifully said. So perfectly expressed that I keep rereading the portion that I put in bold text because it succinctly explains my position.

I trust science. Then again, my father was a scientist who taught us that, in science, one of the greatest follies is remaining emotionally attached to hypotheses or conclusions. True scientists let go of flawed expectations, and keep moving as evidence mounts and leads them onward.

Did Fauci get it right in the very beginning? He did not. But he's publicly acknowledged every misstep, explained how the data led him and others there, and revised his recommendations as the data came in. More than that I cannot ask.
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No one's perfect. People like and trust Dr. Fauci because he's doing his best. I know someone who went to med school with him who says that he is a very sincere, honest person. I also like Scott Gottlieb. Although he's on the Pfizer board he says what he thinks.
 
Mr. Ed said:
Not meaning to sound political, but why are world leaders so invested in making certain everyone gets vaccinated? There is something much bigger at play here.
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Nice to read a thinking man's post.
 

StarSong said:
Why? So that this virus can be stopped, that's why. Or do people want to live like this for several more years until herd immunity kicks in or the virus morphs into a less dangerous version.
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That is likely the tactic to motivate sheeple into going for the vaccine now, so they don't think about the risk. Destroy the economy, make everyone miserable & frustrated & create fear & desperation so people believe they have to get the vaccinated to save the world.

"Sheeple:" People compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or easily led.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I think as people are learning more and more about the virus and observing more and more inconsistencies related to the virus, in addition to reports surrounding medical advice, and, efforts being made to contain it, slow it, and eradicate it, more and more deaf-ears are tuning-out the likes of Fauci, and others.

I for one don't care what Fauci, has to say, and I pay no attention to him or his reports.
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Most people trust Dr. Fauci implicitly. He is as close to a hero as we have in fighting this horrific disease. Of course, as some of us have repeated here ad nauseum, science doesn't come up with divinely ordained absolute truths. There are always inconsistencies, and our ideas change and evolve as we learn more and more about the subject. Considering how new this virus is, and how deadly, I think our scientific researchers, and particularly Dr. Fauci, have done an incredible job.
 
win231 said:
That is likely the tactic to motivate sheeple into going for the vaccine now, so they don't think about the risk. Destroy the economy, make everyone miserable & frustrated & create fear & desperation so people believe they have to get the vaccinated to save the world.

"Sheeple:" People compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or easily led.
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Sheeple. That word had it's day and it's day is long over. Time to be creative.
 
Sunny said:
Most people trust Dr. Fauci implicitly. He is as close to a hero as we have in fighting this horrific disease. Of course, as some of us have repeated here ad nauseum, science doesn't come up with divinely ordained absolute truths. There are always inconsistencies, and our ideas change and evolve as we learn more and more about the subject. Considering how new this virus is, and how deadly, I think our scientific researchers, and particularly Dr. Fauci, have done an incredible job.
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"Most people trust Dr. Fauci?" Quite a lengthy survey you must have completed! 😊
The power of wishful thinking........
 
Fauci screwed up in the beginning by not telling everyone to wear facemasks. He said he didn't call for the public to wear PPE because he didn't want to create shortages in hospitals, which doesn't make any sense because as soon as they told the public that facemasks help prevent the spread of the virus, people started making masks or just wearing bandanas or scarves around their faces.

So, had he promoted the wearing of facemasks in the beginning, fewer people would have contracted the virus, and there wouldn't have been as high a demand for PPE in hospitals. It could have made a difference.

Other than that, Fauci's been reliable.
 
StarSong said:
It sounds like the side effects are pretty common and will sideline a good percentage of recipients for 1-3 days.
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I, for one, am ready and willing to be sidelined for 1-3 days, if it comes to that. I will line up for a COVID vaccine as soon as it's available for seniors. I am a retired physician, I've been following the medical literature about the development and testing of the various vaccines, and I feel secure about taking the risk. I want to do my part to help bring this brutal pandemic to an end.
 
win231 said:
That is likely the tactic to motivate sheeple into going for the vaccine now, so they don't think about the risk. Destroy the economy, make everyone miserable & frustrated & create fear & desperation so people believe they have to get the vaccinated to save the world.

"Sheeple:" People compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or easily led.
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Who exactly is it who wants these terrible things to happen? Who is this mysterious "they?"
 
Because I traveled a lot as a kid, been vaccinated for everything except swine flu and H1 whatever., Not a sheep situation, just being reasonable for myself...Do it or not it's a personal choice and not subject to to anyone's judgment, expert or not...Wishing all the very best...vaccinated or not...Hugs
 
Sunny said:
Jules, all these vaccines have different reactions from all of us. In very rare cases, people do get seriously ill. It's a calculated risk. I'd rather take that chance than have a serious risk of getting a terrible, possibly fatal, disease.
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My feelings exactly. People forget that the side effects of getting covid very realistically include death (a pretty serious side effect in my book), not to mention lifelong effects from damage to lungs and/or other organs. At my age, getting covid would probably be a death sentence, so I'll gladly take the vaccine, thank you.

Anybody who is taking any prescription medication should take a hard look at the possible side effects from their medication. Yet most of us take it anyway. I don't see much difference between that and taking the vaccine. My sister takes a medication that could kill her if the levels get out of whack and she has to have her levels monitored. But, if she doesn't take it she will almost surely die. So, after thinking about the odds, she takes it.
 
StarSong said:
Beautifully said. So perfectly expressed that I keep rereading the portion that I put in bold text because it succinctly explains my position.

I trust science. Then again, my father was a scientist who taught us that, in science, one of the greatest follies is remaining emotionally attached to hypotheses or conclusions. True scientists let go of flawed expectations, and keep moving as evidence mounts and leads them onward.

Did Fauci get it right in the very beginning? He did not. But he's publicly acknowledged every misstep, explained how the data led him and others there, and revised his recommendations as the data came in. More than that I cannot ask.
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well said, Star.
 
Sunny said:
Most people trust Dr. Fauci implicitly. He is as close to a hero as we have in fighting this horrific disease. Of course, as some of us have repeated here ad nauseum, science doesn't come up with divinely ordained absolute truths. There are always inconsistencies, and our ideas change and evolve as we learn more and more about the subject. Considering how new this virus is, and how deadly, I think our scientific researchers, and particularly Dr. Fauci, have done an incredible job.
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I strongly agree!
 
win231 said:
That is likely the tactic to motivate sheeple into going for the vaccine now, so they don't think about the risk. Destroy the economy, make everyone miserable & frustrated & create fear & desperation so people believe they have to get the vaccinated to save the world.

"Sheeple:" People compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or easily led.
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BAAA, BAAA, BAAA, chow down, chow down, chow down, BAAD, BAAD, BAAD
 
Irwin said:
Fauci screwed up in the beginning by not telling everyone to wear facemasks. He said he didn't call for the public to wear PPE because he didn't want to create shortages in hospitals, which doesn't make any sense because as soon as they told the public that facemasks help prevent the spread of the virus, people started making masks or just wearing bandanas or scarves around their faces.

So, had he promoted the wearing of facemasks in the beginning, fewer people would have contracted the virus, and there wouldn't have been as high a demand for PPE in hospitals. It could have made a difference.

Other than that, Fauci's been reliable.
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Cause in the beginning, before masks were mandated by mayors and governors, people wore masks-not . Cause after mayors and governors mandated wearing masks people wore masks-not. Faulk didn’t screw up; Americans, as usual, screwed up.

Cause once stores started putting an employee or an off duty cop on the doors of their stores people started wearing masks into the store-YES THIS WORKED. But Americans, lots of Americans still refuse to wear mask-political rallies, bars, eat in establishments, private parties, and on and on and on.

Americans can be dumber than dirt as individuals. Can’t blame Fauci for that!
 
I don’t know. I think if I lived in a large city, I probably would. Here in rural America, I’m not so sure. If it truly is life saving then I would rather a young person have my shot. I guess when it comes down to it, I believe that our fate is sealed the moment we are born, and no amount of intervention is going to change whatever that.
 

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