Should there be broad-based religious teachings?

Serenity4321 said:
TY ..I do find Lithuanians in many places even though it is still a small country.
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The last time I was there I visited the Vytautas museum in Kaunas where the crashed plane of Darius and Girenas is displayed. It's a bit morbid.
 

Verisure said:
The last time I was there I visited the Vytautas museum in Kaunas where the crashed plane of Darius and Girenas is displayed. It's a bit morbid.
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Still awesome to see that part of history..I have not been to the museum but know the story of Darius and Girenas.....my family lived in Kaunas for awhile..I was not born in Lithuania.
 
Mr. Ed said:
It seems nowadays outside religious practices and teaching have already impacted much of the world population. The bible states to go out and teach the nations, I have trouble with spreading the good news to people who are completely content with life as they know it to be. Not for the sake of education but the notion of changing heritage and beliefs so they may be as I am.

Are we so vain that we must transform well-adjusted native inhabitants to our likeness so they may be happy living as we live? The irony of it all though is we discriminate against foreigners in their own land, because they are not like us. Soon there is tension between the home team and the visiting team, we bring in sophisticated firepower and the uneven balance is restored to our liking.
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No.

My stance is, if I want religion in my life, there are a whole host of churches in our area and I know how to find them.
 
old medic said:
I took a Religions class in high school... very very interesting, covering all the major ideas and believes from around the world..
Including from none to astronomy to native spirits.... even devil worshiping...
The wildest part of the class was the teacher ..... and the HUGE OUTCRY from the community....
He was also the psychology teacher, a proclaimed Atheist and most parents called for him to be fired...
Who better to pass along the fact than someone with no dog in the fight.
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I wished I had taken Religion in school. Learning about all of the worlds religious beliefs would have proved interesting.
 
Irwin said:
Religion should absolutely be taught in schools. It's had an immense effect on society and the world, both positive–mostly in the realm of art and architecture–and negative when one considers all the wars that have been waged in the name of religion and all the suffering that has resulted from people trying to force their religious beliefs on others.
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Religion is required in the schools in Sweden. Muslim migrants, however, tell their children to walk out of the class because (according to them) it is non-Muslim propaganda. I don't even know now if Moslems are exempt from the class. Maybe they are. I was once a Viking at a "living Viking" museum which is a replica Viking village. Part of the tour was Viking history. School trips are common but Moslem children leave the tour when we get to the part about when the Vikings became Christians because they think we were trying to convert them. They just walk out and wait in the school bus.
 
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Irwin said:
A total lack of judgement would be difficult if not impossible. The teaching of Catholicism, for instance, would have to include the widespread child abuse and pedophilia that has been prevalent in the church. How could you tolerate that and view it without judgement?

The teaching of Islam would have to include the suicide bombings and of course, the 9/11 attack.
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Are there going to be teachings of the child abuse horrors found in various Protestant churches? Or the horrific emotional torture practiced on young queer people by various fundamentalist churches seeking to drive out anything

but their heterosexual version of “normal?” Let us not forget the sexual coercion found in the Buddhist Shambala not long ago. There are no perfect denominations.
 
Shalimar said:
Are there going to be teachings of the child abuse horrors found in various Protestant churches? Or the horrific emotional torture practiced on young queer people by various fundamentalist churches seeking to drive out anything

but their heterosexual version of “normal?” Let us not forget the sexual coercion found in the Buddhist Shambala not long ago. There are no perfect denominations.
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I think the idea is not to take up much of the interpretations of the Torah, the Bible, the Koran, etc. although that is increasingly difficult to ignore.
 
Verisure said:
Religion is required in the schools in Sweden. Muslim migrants, however, tell their children to walk out of the class because (according to them) it is non-Muslim propaganda. I don't even know now if Moslems are exempt from the class. Maybe they are. I was once a Viking at a "living Viking" museum which is a replica Viking village. Part of the tour was Viking history. School trips are common but Moslem children leave the tour when we get to the part about when the Vikings became Christians because they think we were trying to convert them. They just walk out and wait in the school bus.
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My friend is a teacher in Sweden and she says dealing with the Muslim kids is a nightmare.
 
SetWave said:
My friend is a teacher in Sweden and she says dealing with the Muslim kids is a nightmare.
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I have NO DOUBT about that. I was a teacher's assistant for one year. It was my intention to become a full-fledged teacher but after that one year with those Muslims ..... I gave it up and never looked back.
 
Verisure said:
I have NO DOUBT about that. I was a teacher's assistant for one year. It was my intention to become a full-fledged teacher but after that one year with those Muslims ..... I gave it up and never looked back.
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From what she tells me I can completely understand your decision. She loves teaching but with the parents encouragement she is treated with total disrespect because she's a woman.
 
Verisure said:
Not only interesting but important. My opinion is that if you want to believe in "the meaning of life" it's a good idea to know what choices there are and then decide for yourself.
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I agree. I think it would educate a person enough to make wiser choices and help them have a more balanced perspective on their core belief system.
Verisure said:
I think the idea is not to take up much of the interpretations of the Torah, the Bible, the Koran, etc. although that is increasingly difficult to ignore.
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I wholeheartedly agree. It’s the extremists who take their chosen religion too far that ‘seem’ to be the most whacked out and no religion appears to be without them.
 
SetWave said:
From what she tells me I can completely understand your decision. She loves teaching but with the parents encouragement she is treated with total disrespect because she's a woman.
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There is nothing positive about that situation and it only takes 2 of them in any class to make teaching impossible. What really made my decision easy to make was that the good kids in that class couldn't learn anything because of all the noise and disturbances. The Muslims have no respect for Europe or our kindness. The only thing they know is to destroy ... and that's what they do. And you're right. I'm a man and it's difficult enough, but for a woman, it's much, much worse. I have a son who's in school and I moved twice just to keep as far away as possible from you-know-who so my boy can get an education.
 
Verisure said:
There is nothing positive about that situation and it only takes 2 of them in any class to make teaching impossible. What really made my decision easy to make was that the good kids in that class couldn't learn anything because of all the noise and disturbances. The Muslims have no respect for Europe or our kindness. The only thing they know is to destroy ... and that's what they do. And you're right. I'm a man and it's difficult enough, but for a woman, it's much, much worse.
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It's as if you are quoting her word for word.
 
Keesha said:
I agree. I think it would educate a person enough to make wiser choices and help them have a more balanced perspective on their core belief system.

I wholeheartedly agree. It’s the extremists who take their chosen religion too far that ‘seem’ to be the most whacked out and no religion appears to be without them.
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It's not easy, is it. Older generations, including my parents, raise children in the religion they themselves were brought up with and are taught it is the CORRECT way to believe in god. But how do they know what's true and what isn't? I guess if you can believe that someone walked on water then you may as well believe in the whole kit & kaboodle, right? But if your children learn about other religions they might see more sense in some other one ... or maybe they see no sense in any of them. Oooops! :eek:
 
Many of my clients are Muslim, primarily from war torn countries. I am always treated with the utmost respect. These are some of the warmest, kindest people I have ever met. They greatly appreciate what this country has offered them, and do their best to give back to the community. Their children are polite, my teacher friends tell me they are a joy to
teach. It is inaccurate to say that all Muslims know how to do is to destroy. Islamophobia has no place on this forum.
 
Shalimar said:
Many of my clients are Muslim, primarily from war torn countries. I am always treated with the utmost respect. These are some of the warmest, kindest people I have ever met. They greatly appreciate what this country has offered them, and do their best to give back to the community. Their children are polite, my teacher friends tell me they are a joy to
teach. It is inaccurate to say that all Muslims know how to do is to destroy. Islamophobia has no place on this forum.
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There is no attempt to disparage all Muslims and I'm happy to know of your good treatment. Yet, the account I've offered is factual and disturbing. Yes, many people of all cultures can be warm and kind with some of them not so wonderful. I actually worked with a guy from the middle east who told us he would work with us but he could not be our friend. That is just wrong at the core.
As for my friend she says that many of the kids and parents are polite and helpful yet it only takes one or two bad apples to spoil the bunch.
 
Ramadan has just started and I hope to be invited to an Iftar meal this year. Our minister is arranging it with his Muslim contacts. Last year this was not possible because of COVID.

Does anyone know what a suitable gift would be to give to the hosts?
 
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