How Many Terrorist Leaders Were Killed Under President Obama 1st Term in Office?

Giving Obama the credit for killing so called terrorists is OK but he dose not want to take credit for the thousands innocent men women and children that got killed by drones O yes that is collateral damage. Like the double dip they call it when they make a strike and when people go out to help the injured they hit them. Who is the terrorist??
 

War is hell and it always brings with it the loss of innocent lives. The terrorists are the same people who wrought this upon everyone.
 
It is obvious that there is an element of racism in those who oppose Obama with no good explanation, no matter what he does. When he was running the first time, I heard one or two people come right out and say they would not vote for a black man for President. Fortunately, people like that are in the minority. IMO, he has been an excellent President. Not perfect, because no human being is. But considering the mess that he inherited, he's done an amazing job.

He takes the high ground, does not rise to the bait, ignores the idiots on Fox News, has a lovely and intelligent wife, and keeps his nose clean. There has not been one hint of scandal coming out of the White House. As seen in the list above, he killed not only bin Laden but many other terrorists. And yes, he does get the credit for that; if he had failed to punish these monsters, you can bet that the Republicans would be screaming from the rooftops how ineffectual he is. Given that the avowed intention of the GOP is to discredit him and stop him from achieving anything at all, it's hard to assume that the Republicans are acting on high moral principals.

I disagree with him about the recent Muslim vs. Christian issue. He went way too far in trying to equalize the two religions, by bringing up the horrors of centuries past committed by Christians. That was then, this is now. So I don't think he's right all the time, but most of the time he is.

Of course, that doesn't make everyone who opposes Obama a racist. But pretending that it isn't a factor with many people is like the scene at the end of The Wizard of Oz: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
 

I ask this in all seriousness, (my previous post was blatantly sarcastic). The racism branding of a person is always thrown down as a way for the other side/person to stop all debate. Once you label a person a racist, our hyper politically correct society instantly discounts and sicks the attack dogs on the alleged racist.

So answer me this. If you were a white family of 4 with two small children, and you are looking at houses with a realator. The realator pulls you up to a house in a cul-de-sac and 75% of the houses are owned by black families. Do you buy there?

Be honest. I guess you can lie to us, but you know the truth.

So, if I am not supervising a person, if I dont approve his paycheck, I am just a person minding my own business. Is it not my right to be racist?

I belong to a small, rural church. 50 people max in attendance each Sunday. We have no black members. We dont keep them out, in fact they are welcome, and we have had some visitors who are black. 10 miles away is an AME Black church, they have no white members. Why is this?

Given freedom to choose, people will naturally gravatate to their own type.

Kansas City Missouri, for 40 years spent billions of dollars bussing minorities and whites all over to force integration of the school. They built extravagantly expensive "magnet schools" All the luxuries. When school bussing was finally realized as a joke and waste, you know what is left? The whites all moved to the suburbs and the KC schools, Like St. Louis are failures and many areas of Kansas City are not safe to drive through.

I am playing devils advocate here. Most people are afraid to have an honest discussion cause someone always throws out the racist label and the "racist" has to leave. No room for discussion. If you cant support your arguments with facts, just call the other person names.

Oh, and I can't stand Obama because of his policies. He is half white remember? I dont like his white half, so it is impossible for me to be racist.

Gene
 
Giving Obama the credit for killing so called terrorists is OK but he dose not want to take credit for the thousands innocent men women and children that got killed by drones O yes that is collateral damage. Like the double dip they call it when they make a strike and when people go out to help the injured they hit them. Who is the terrorist??

That's a super point, no one in their right mind wants that sort of credit. One thing I still can't shake is the little I hear about the abortion issues. There are a lot of folks in this country that think it has surpassed the deaths in several wars, we think those are live babies and the weeks old they are and still being aborted. How can that not be a priority. I cannot agree with him on a couple of major things for me, so I am not excited about the things I feel are less important

I really don't think a political thread belongs in a forum, too much hate if we don't all agree. The groups might be better since I don't think a one of us know how to do a real debate. I'd say we could survive, even better without political debate, and if you have a hot temper, you'll always end up in trouble. Or, at the least, that rudeness, disrespect for your fellow Americans needs to be tossed out, at the least.
 
We are able to have this fourm, on a free and open internet, because the founders of this country had lots of lively political debates.

But yes, several forums I visit have special political "rooms" If you go in there, prepare to be offended.!!:)
 
A person without opinion and a willingness to defend them is safe from flack but like an blank page.

And like a blank page that person has no prejudices, no alliances, no allegiances - they can be written upon by the day's events. They are made new every day.

Ever try to write yourself a note on a page torn from a book? Hard to distinguish the new from the old, isn't it?
 
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I wonder how many of you lefties really watch FOX NEWS. There are some lefties on FOX NEWS and they do keep bringing up some nasty political items from both sides. I don't watch FOX NEWS all the time but after watching NBC or ABC or CBS I sometimes wonder where there interest is coming from, so then I watch some FOX NEWS for a better balance. Some other programs I have heard on TV are so far left they are not even worth listening too any more. MSNBC is one that I find so distorted that I don't spend much time on there anymore. They definitely are far left progressive and that is all they talk about. Surely not a balanced group like FOX NEWS tries to be as they offer speakers from left and right.
 
Yes... a political section does belong... There are plenty of people that choose to stay out of this section for their own reasons. There are also plenty that enjoy politics. I don't believe it's up to you to call the shots. I suggest that if political banter and debate upsets you .. or if you feel you are unable to debate without emotion.. There are plenty other sections that would be more to your liking.. It's as simple as not clicking on this section.
 
I wonder how many of you lefties really watch FOX NEWS. There are some lefties on FOX NEWS and they do keep bringing up some nasty political items from both sides. I don't watch FOX NEWS all the time but after watching NBC or ABC or CBS I sometimes wonder where there interest is coming from, so then I watch some FOX NEWS for a better balance. Some other programs I have heard on TV are so far left they are not even worth listening too any more. MSNBC is one that I find so distorted that I don't spend much time on there anymore. They definitely are far left progressive and that is all they talk about. Surely not a balanced group like FOX NEWS tries to be as they offer speakers from left and right.

Laughing uncontrollably here.....
 
Well, I'd like to get my 2 cents in here before things get locked down...I have always been a political junkie, I keep up with what is going on in Washington and any time I see an injustice or an out and out lie, I will speak up about it, I try to always back it up....now if someone thinks I'm not telling the truth, they're welcome to counter what I say, as long as they back it up with reputable sources.

You know, I don't like it when people get on here and say misleading and false statements, but I try to SHOW where they are wrong, not whine about it.

That's one reason I like this forum, to be able to express my feelings about what I know.
 
Yes as it is true. Check out the stations and who speak on them if you doubt it. Or are you just saying MSNBC is not far left progressive? If so I can not agree with that at all.

I much prefer to here a more "debate" like rebuttle? Who learnes anything when we make these short, unmeaningful remarks? I think some folks need a job and report what they are told to, if I'm understanding this "discussion".
 
*eyes roll*

It has to more than your eyes rolling. You have to change the dials to get into those stations and hear for yourself. For MSNBC just search for it and get this. Something they tell about themselves.

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War used to be hell but now what they call attacking a terrorist is some one half the world away playing a video game and killing innocent people. When the double dip that means they go back after they killed and injured people and then kill the people who are kind enough to go and help. Maybe if they had to look the baby in the eyes before they kill them things might change. We seem to be judge and jury and make the rules some times we call them freedom fighters and other times they are terrorists this depends on which side you want to play.
 
War used to be hell but now what they call attacking a terrorist is some one half the world away playing a video game and killing innocent people. When the double dip that means they go back after they killed and injured people and then kill the people who are kind enough to go and help. Maybe if they had to look the baby in the eyes before they kill them things might change. We seem to be judge and jury and make the rules some times we call them freedom fighters and other times they are terrorists this depends on which side you want to play.

War is still hell for the participants on the ground and innocent victims of mans inability to allow others their way of life or belief system.
 
I tuned out on the pure bullshit! To suggest that because the President didn't personally shoot the gun that killed terrorists he didn't accomplish the deed is so stupid as to be laughable. And saying there isn't racism at play is equally stupid! Likewise the charge that he fancies himself a dictator because he can't get any help in keeping the country running from congress makes me think of the real dictator, George Bush (the decider). rt3 says if I didn't vote for Jan Brewer I am a sexist!!!! Really?? So whether I like her policies or not I must vote for her or be a sexist? If you didn't vote for Obama that doesn't make you a racist, the crap you spew about his every move in office is a good indication of racism. And how 'bout all the n words after his election from so many of our Southern states? THAT is racism. I haven't called anyone in this thread a racist (though there may be some) but, nonetheless racism is alive and seen daily in discussions involving our President. Yes I said OUR President.

You implied, no you said, that anybody that didn't like Obama was a racist. I was just using your own reasoning to show you how stupid you sound when you play the race game. By your reasoning any black people who didn't vote for Romney is also a racist.
 
You implied, no you said, that anybody that didn't like Obama was a racist. I was just using your own reasoning to show you how stupid you sound when you play the race game. By your reasoning any black people who didn't vote for Romney is also a racist.

Please show me where I said any such a thing.
 

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