SCOTUS Overturns Roe v Wade

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This decision really upsets me. Deciding to have an abortion should be between a woman, her significant other and maybe her doctor, if applicable. It's not anyone else's business. Unfortunately, women will now be getting abortions in back alleys, and many will die. DISGUSTING!!!
 

I thank God all the time that I was never in the position to need an abortion. I have a friend though who had a child with many problems. The child couldn't speak walk or talk. The institute of human potential would come every day to try to help. The child is now in her 50's and nothing helped. they told my friend never to have another child because it could have the same problem. One day my friend's husband who was a fireman was killed fighting a fire. Before they could pronounce him dead they had to examine her to see if she was pregnant. She didn't think she was because they were told that a baby could have the same problem as the other child. We stayed on the phone for hours until she got the results that she was pregnant. Then they did future child would have the same problem. Thankfully it didn't and my friend didn't need to make a decision. Why should anyone other than the woman that's pregnant have a say in the woman's choice?
 
Sassycakes said:
I thank God all the time that I was never in the position to need an abortion. I have a friend though who had a child with many problems. The child couldn't speak walk or talk. The institute of human potential would come every day to try to help. The child is now in her 50's and nothing helped. they told my friend never to have another child because it could have the same problem. One day my friend's husband who was a fireman was killed fighting a fire. Before they could pronounce him dead they had to examine her to see if she was pregnant. She didn't think she was because they were told that a baby could have the same problem as the other child. We stayed on the phone for hours until she got the results that she was pregnant. Then they did future child would have the same problem. Thankfully it didn't and my friend didn't need to make a decision. Why should anyone other than the woman that's pregnant have a say in the woman's choice?
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Off topic but I am trying to understand this statement. "Before they could pronounce him dead they had to examine her to see if she was pregnant."

Who is "they" and why did they have to examine her for pregnancy before announcing him dead? Plenty of women have lost spouses while pregnant and never had to be tested before being told their spouse has died.
 
steve43 said:
This decision really upsets me. Deciding to have an abortion should be between a woman, her significant other and maybe her doctor, if applicable. It's not anyone else's business. Unfortunately, women will now be getting abortions in back alleys, and many will die. DISGUSTING!!!
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Sadly in some cases that male is long gone. I worked with a young woman who got pregnant. She had a supportive mother but her mother had also started having kids very young. She told me the male just told her "it's not mine" disappeared out of her life and she had the kid.
 
It's kind of ironic that I just watched this film last night.

................. ............. ................ "The Janes"

A Stirring Documentary Account of the Trailblazing Underground Abortion Network ​


The Janes Documentary


https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-janes-movie-review-2022
https://variety.com/2022/film/reviews/the-janes-review-1235162205/

"Summer is superhero season, so it seems only fitting that “The Janes” is coming out now. But it doesn’t feature brawny, larger-than-life figures swooping in to save the day; rather, it focuses on a group of women whose weapons are kindness and compassion, bravery and resiliency.

The documentary from directors Tia Lessin and Emma Pildes briskly tells the story of The Jane Collective, which helped thousands of women obtain abortions when they were still illegal in the late 1960s and early ‘70s. (The narrative feature “Call Jane,” starring Elizabeth Banks and Sigourney Weaver, covers the same territory and is due out this fall.) These courageous volunteers came from all walks of life across Chicago: artists and activists, wives and mothers. The Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision of January 1973 legalized abortion nationwide and brought some relief. But the story of their daring remains frighteningly relevant nearly 50 years later as it appears that Roe is increasingly in jeopardy, providing an undercurrent of tension throughout."

Bella ✌️
 
What problem? Abortion has been handed to individual states, as it should be the individual state's decision on such matters.

The Governor of California is promising abortions for all comers. I imagine he will turn abortion into a business in CA, and will offer free flights and hotel stays to women who take advantage of his generous offers to be announced.
 
I saw this coming with the 2016 election.

Lots of people across the nation dealing with anguish and heartbreak don't vote self-interest. They have no one but themselves to blame. There's a saying that American voters have short memories. Won't surprise me one bit that come November, the same anti-Roe vs Wade party will be ushered into Congress as a majority.
 
So conflicted about this. I believe that a fetus at average age of viability outside the womb (without neonatal intervention) is a baby and that abortion beyond that point is murder. But as a libertarian, I'm very disturbed at legislating morality. What does it say about my moral compass that there's no clear winner in my conscious?
 

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