The difference between men and women

[Shalimar]

It was part of the early times then, no? Women were thought to be only for nursing and secretarial in those times. I don't think it was anything personal, though, and also think it's partly their upbringing and how they were taught to think of women's roles in those times. Men did dominate the field of psychology, yes. They perhaps also somehow felt threatened? Hum?

It was a different time, but the scathing comments were personal, I prefer not to air them here. Did they feel threatened, I suspect so. Never once did I let on how their remarks affected me. They learned I would never quit, never show fear, or cry.

 

[Ruthanne]

It was a different time, but the scathing comments were personal, I prefer not to air them here. Did they feel threatened, I suspect so. Never once did I let on how their remarks affected me. They learned I would never quit, never show fear, or cry.

I'm happy you never quit. Sorry to hear their comments were so horrid and I know how they can be that way as it was done to me, too. I was called every name in the book. In a different setting though. I am a scholar in the field of psy. but not a licensed therapist. I empathize.

Men can be be feeling very threatened and act totally asinine!!

 

[Shalimar]

I'm happy you never quit. Sorry to hear their comments were so horrid and I know how they can be that way as it was done to me, too. I was called every name in the book. In a different setting though. I am a scholar in the field of psy. but not a licensed therapist. I empathize.

Men can be be feeling very threatened and act totally asinine!!

Congrats on your achievement re psych.
I am sorry you went through that abuse. Sometimes, understanding psychology can help us put other people’s behaviour in perspective, instead of automatically buying into their reality.

 

[Ruthanne]

Congrats on your achievement re psych.
I am sorry you went through that abuse. Sometimes, understanding psychology can help us put other people’s behaviour in perspective, instead of automatically buying into their reality.

Thank you. Yes, it can put it in perspective but privately make a person feel like crying...:love_heart:

 

[Traveler]

It was a different time, but the scathing comments were personal, I prefer not to air them here. Did they feel threatened, I suspect so. Never once did I let on how their remarks affected me. They learned I would never quit, never show fear, or cry.

Yes, different times. When I was in 7th and 8th grade there were 3 male teachers who physically assaulted me, regularly. It was one of the reasons I left home at age 15 and, except for about 3 months never went to high school. Funny thing is the more the teachers hurt me , the more I resisted their demands. I remember my math teacher requiring us to show our work on all math tests. But I could do it in my head and I refused to spend time on writing out my work. Even though my answers were correct, he always gave me an "F' for failing to show my work. I never said it out loud but I thought, "You can't break me you, bastard". Even then I was a stubborn cuss, the more the teachers tried to force me to do something the more I dug I in my heels.

 

[Ruthanne]

Yes, different times. When I was in 7th and 8th grade there were 3 male teachers who physically assaulted me, regularly. It was one of the reasons I left home at age 15 and, except for about 3 months never went to high school. Funny thing is the more the teachers hurt me , the more I resisted their demands. I remember my math teacher requiring us to show our work on all math tests. But I could do it in my head and I refused to spend time on writing out my work. Even though my answers were correct, he always gave me an "F' for failing to show my work. I never said it out loud but I thought, "You can't break me you, bastard". Even then I was a stubborn cuss, the more the teachers tried to force me to do something the more I dug I in my heels.

OMG. You give me much to ponder. So sorry that bastard went at you like like that!!

 

[Warrigal]

I can vouch for that attitude.

Some of the worst offenders were the woodwork teachers.
That was back in the days when corporal punishment was legal although strictly regulated.
The worst offenders paid scant regard for the regulations.

When I was in Grade 6, the teacher in the room next door to ours would occasionally line up everyone in the class and deliver them all one cut of the cane "to wake them up". Fortunately my teacher used the cane very sparingly.

In my first year of teaching the deputy principal would patrol the corridors looking in on lessons looking for some excuse to pull out some unfortunate boy to cane. This was actually a tactic he used to dominate young teachers. He was a total bastard who one boasted about caning a boy who was fitting on the floor. He claimed the boy was faking it.

One of the rare advantages of being female was that we could not be subjected to corporal punishment once we turned 12.

 

[grahamg]

Lucky as grammar school

I was very lucky at my secondary school (an all boys "grammar school"), where we had excellent teachers who were nearly all men, and the one exception was the young woman who taught physical education and gained great admiration by us boys.

My story about being singled out though concerns an experience through my work, in a very large company when I came to be at loggerheads with local management. I'd joined the union six months previously, having been reluctant to do so earlier, and was very glad when I ran into difficulties. Anyway, one of the things the union officials told me was that my "work mates" would probably back off from me for fear of affecting their own chances at the company, and this did happen to some extent.

I just throw it in as a comment, because I'm suggesting "herd instinct" maybe does come into play in all kinds of situations, and the psychologists will know more about this I'd guess. Aren't there examples at football matches where violence breaks out and normally law abiding citizens who wouldn't dream of such behaviour join in picking on an opposition sports fan.

It was hard to cope with my workmates shunning me for a time, but the union did an excellent job for me, and eventually things moved on and some of my mates started treating me okay again. I have had other examples in my life where I seem to have attracted condemnation by "others" both through work and outside work too (maybe I'm prone to it?). I might have blamed myself at one time, but I've lived long enough now to know many others who have experienced similar situations, and one of my sisters went through it at her work.

 

[Traveler]

OMG. You give me much to ponder. So sorry that bastard went at you like like that!!

Those were some very bad times. I got beaten by the teachers, by school yard bullies and at home by my step father. At age 15 I was not yet man enough to protect myself, But things started getting better when I ran away from home and lived on the streets. Nietzsche was right when he wrote, "That which does does not kill me, makes me stronger".

 

[Sunny]

Fortunately for me, I grew up in New Jersey. In that state, corporal punishment by teachers has always been forbidden, at least back as far as I know. Incredible that in "civilized" parts of the world, teachers were permitted to physically punish students.

 

[SifuPhil]

I don't know what to tell you. There are dozens of web sites that quote various numbers for how much a woman spends in her lifetime on cosmetics. The number that Allure Magazine quotes, seemed quite high to me also. I'm not in that industry so I can only go by what they say. I just picked one at random from the google list.

Understood.

I DO know from first-hand experience (worked as a flavor-and-color chemist for the old General Foods) that many of those magic lotions and unguents are HIGHLY overpriced for what they contain. You're paying for the packaging and for the dream, not for what's inside the box.

"Sell the sizzle, not the steak".

 

[SifuPhil]

A truer statement than you think. Scientists have noted the gradual shrinking of the Y chromosome.

Ah, but they're giving us around 5 million years to do something about it.

If we haven't eliminated the human race by then through other efforts, we'll probably have Y-Drinks to replace the chromosomes.

 

[Warrigal]

True on both counts, Phil.

 

[drifter]

Don't know what the problem is. All women are beautiful creatures, each in her own way. We are attracted to them, many attracted to us. Always asks, May I have this dance? If she said yes, she was the most beautiful gal in the room.

 

[Gary O']

Don't know what the problem is. All women are beautiful creatures, each in her own way. We are attracted to them, many attracted to us. Always asks, May I have this dance? If she said yes, she was the most beautiful gal in the room.

we must drink together, new friend
first one is on me
after that
whoever is first on the dance floor with a beautiful creature, wins