Afghan Slaughter

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I have a Son In Law that fought for Flauga. Seen many of his Marine buddies die right beside him. He's really upset about the way we left. In the past when we left Vet Naum we put all our equipment in one big area then dropped a big bomb on it so the Vet Cong could not use any of the equipment.

Here the Taliban has all the top-secret equipment we left behind. Now the Chinese will come in & take that back to China & use it against some other country or maybe even us. :mad:
 

Lee said:
Victims of this catastrophe also include the soldiers. I read where one said that by nighfall they all cried. PTSD will haunt them also for life.

You cannot help but cry when you see pictures of the children being thrown up over the barbed wire.
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Lee, CAN YOU IMAGINE the TERROR these Mothers must be feeling?
Can you even IMAGINE giving up your own child so they won't be gunned down or beheaded?
 
Gaer said:
No. Please don't prejudge or think the worst of people. I think you are very wrong about this. No.
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Yeah, you're probably right in my haste to use the term "laughing". Instead I would imagine that a certain person in enjoying some of the "mumbling and bumbling" that is going on in an attempt to handle this nasty situation.
 

I shudder to think about all the military hardware we are leaving behind. Not just the millions & millions in taxpayer money that put it there but ......... do you not think the Chinese & the Russians are not just salivating at the thought of getting their hands on it ?

If war re-flares there [and it just might] our military personell will be fighting against our own hardware.
 
Don M. said:
Yeah, you're probably right in my haste to use the term "laughing". Instead I would imagine that a certain person in enjoying some of the "mumbling and bumbling" that is going on in an attempt to handle this nasty situation.
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No. No. It's not to be mocked. It's sad. I'm just asking you not to presume or think the worst of anyone. That's all.
 
Tom 86 said:
I have a Son In Law that fought for Flauga. Seen many of his Marine buddies die right beside him. He's really upset about the way we left. In the past when we left Vet Naum we put all our equipment in one big area then dropped a big bomb on it so the Vet Cong could not use any of the equipment.

Here the Taliban has all the top-secret equipment we left behind. Now the Chinese will come in & take that back to China & use it against some other country or maybe even us. :mad:
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They will most likely reverse engineer it to find it's vulnerabilities. The knowledge would be useful to an enemy. Any high tech stuff they could copy for their own use which would even the playing feel for them.
 
Murrmurr said:
Initially, they'll both be happy - money for the Taliban, roads and minerals for China. But I'm pretty sure it'll be a short honeymoon. Both the CCP and the Taliban love control equally. And eventually, the CCP will expect a show of gratitude in some form, but they'll never get that from the Taliban.
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Maybe we'll see how smart the Chinese are. Both Russia and the U. S. flubbed there.
We'll see, maybe.
 
Also, I found an interesting article regarding how the Taliban and the Afghanis are getting along — particularly since the Taliban were going house-to-house to find people to punish. A short quote:

Afghan militias on Friday pushed the Taliban out of parts of Baghlan province, located about 100 miles (160km) north of the capital, according to multiple reports. As many as 30 Taliban fighters were killed, and 20 others captured, the Washington Post said, citing statements from commanders who led the uprising.
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Three districts in the province – Puli Hisar, Dih Salah and Bano – were taken after locals resisted the Taliban’s attempt to carry out house-to-house searches in the area.

A former Afghan soldier who participated in the rebellion claimed that the Taliban fled the area in armored vehicles as locals pelted their cars with rocks.
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https://www.rt.com/news/532708-anti-taliban-resistance-afghansitan-baghlan/

So it's not all lovey-dovey.
 
oldiebutgoody said:
The imperialist invaders killed all those people and did not make many friends there. No surprise why the people remained loyal to the Taliban ~ it's their country, their government, their way of life. Like it or not, the Western imperialists had no right to invade and occupy that land.
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At some point since 9/11 you seen to have forgotten that Osama Bin Ladin operated out of Afghanistan. Moreover, it was the Talaban who gave him a safe haven . There are consequences for those who support world terrorism.
 
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Irwin said:
The problem with that statement is, we're still there, helping people get out. How can we have "pulled out without a care in the world" when all you need to do is turn on the news and watch our military airlifting people out of there and they've said we're not leaving until everyone is out? How can those two statements be true? Is it all just a big hoax? Perhaps CGI generated animations of our military loading up C-17s with people and flying them out? Is that what's going on? I don't use Facebook, so maybe I'm out of the loop.
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Perhaps I might have worded it better BUT the simple fact remains that our gov't COULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE, helped our friend escape to a different country BEFORE we pulled out. NOT after we pulled out. Now , it's FUBAR.
 
senior chef said:
Perhaps I might have worded it better BUT the simple fact remains that our gov't COULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE, helped our friend escape to a different country BEFORE we pulled out. NOT after we pulled out. Now , it's FUBAR.
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I agree. The way it was done had disastrous effects that did not have to be.
 
Devi said:
Well, you can read the linked-to article at the Washington Post, although it's behind a paywall:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...b433fc-01da-11ec-87e0-7e07bd9ce270_story.html

I read what I read. If you feel it's a wrong source for you, so be it. Perhaps Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, etc. are more your cup of tea?
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I'll poke around a little and see. I actually don't have an opinion on the source --it was in fact, just a question.

Do you remember in the '80's there was a common oft repeated survey of teachers from the '40's what their greatest discipline problems were compared to a more contemporary survey ? It was repeated and commented on all over the country and was fictitious.

What I actually believe about the media can be summed up better and shorter than I could do by Jon Stewart-- " The media is lazy and sensationalist".

Even when no malice or bias is intended reports are often skewed by tying to make a story more interesting or visually appealing, or fit into the allotted space or time.
 
senior chef said:
At some point since 9/11 you seen to have forgotten that Osama Bin Ladin operated out of Afghanistan. Moreover, it was the Talaban who gave him a safe haven . There are consequences for those who support world terrorism.
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She's posted more than once that she thinks the Afghan people are happy the Taliban have resumed control. That's pretty much her thesis and all the rest of her posts including the massive copied and pasted ones have that at core.
 
Yeah, rt.com is a Russian outfit, albeit apparently quite the award-winning outfit:
"RT is the winner of the Monte Carlo TV Festival Awards for best 24-hour newscast, and the only Russian TV channel to be a ten-time Emmy finalist. In 2021, the network has been nominated for News and Documentary Emmy Awards for its VR project ‘Lessons of Auschwitz’, commemorating the 75th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp by the Soviet Army."
https://www.rt.com/about-us/

I found the link to the article on some other article, and thought it was interesting. It seemed to be more cinformational than sensational/yellow journalism.

Anyway, I've been up all night, so I'm out of here. Take care all.
 
Oris Borloff said:
Why is this a very credible source? I mean that as a sincere question. I wasn't familiar with it, looked it up. It's interesting who it is.
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There are no credible sources anymore unless you're firmly polarized in your worldview.

You have to read the actual articles carefully, ignored the biased crap and trace references to facts within the articles to find nuggets of truth.

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senior chef said:
At some point since 9/11 you seen to have forgotten that Osama Bin Ladin operated out of Afghanistan. Moreover, it was the Talaban who gave him a safe haven . There are consequences for those who support world terrorism.
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The Taliban offered to surrender OBL to the USA via a third party (IIRC Saudi Arabia and Qatar were being considered for that transfer) if it could present evidence that he engineered the 9/11 attack. Bush declined the offer. Whatever the case, OBL has been dead for years which means there was no further "justification" for the continued occupation and exploitation.
 
AnnieA said:
She's posted more than once that she thinks the Afghan people are happy the Taliban have resumed control. That's pretty much her thesis and all the rest of her posts including the massive copied and pasted ones have that at core.
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Senior chef was responding to me. In case I hadn't previously made it clearly previously, I am a he, not a she. ;)
 
Are their any here that are not deeply embarrassed regarding our national policies towards other nations?
 

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