Are there ANGELS?

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To be totally correct, the question is, does a deity exist? It's impossible to prove it does not. It's a negative. That's what all the theoretical people say. And, in all honestly, there is no physical proof of a deity. You can't point to it. Science is coming closer and closer to a plausible explanation of the Universe, without a deity. Humans have a history of believing in gods. Most believe because they believe, and that is satisfying for them. Yet, that same hunam history has many gods. The most powerful ancient Egyptian god, Osiris, was worshiped for over 2,000 years. We still have remnants of his temples. He was worshiped until the 4th century AD, when Christians slaughtered those, who worshiped the "pagan" god. Today, Osisis is considered a myth; but to those ,who chose to die for their belief, he was a god. Most of the comments about a deity here, have been concerned with a Christian ideation of a deity. I think those, who advocate the existence of a deity, also have offer evidense of what is the true deity.
 

fuzzybuddy said:
To be totally correct, the question is, does a deity exist? It's impossible to prove it does not. It's a negative. That's what all the theoretical people say. And, in all honestly, there is no physical proof of a deity. You can't point to it. Science is coming closer and closer to a plausible explanation of the Universe, without a deity. Humans have a history of believing in gods. Most believe because they believe, and that is satisfying for them. Yet, that same hunam history has many gods. The most powerful ancient Egyptian god, Osiris, was worshiped for over 2,000 years. We still have remnants of his temples. He was worshiped until the 4th century AD, when Christians slaughtered those, who worshiped the "pagan" god. Today, Osisis is considered a myth; but to those ,who chose to die for their belief, he was a god. Most of the comments about a deity here, have been concerned with a Christian ideation of a deity. I think those, who advocate the existence of a deity, also have offer evidense of what is the true deity.
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fuzzy...have you ever visited Egypt?
 

PVC said:
And what was there before nothing? I can't comprehend anything without a beginning and an end, that is why I believe in a creator, because I have no answer to that question.
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It is very hard to comprehend that, but there has always been faith. Believing without seeing. Trying something new without knowing how it will end is about the same thing. Whether it turns out good or bad.
 
PVC said:
I never read my bible anymore, maybe I should cut it out and stash my cash in there. But, knowing my luck, my house invader will be the religious type and will take the bible home. I think the cash is safer in the freezer and labeled "Tofu". 😒
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That is NOT what a Bible is for PVC!:mad:

This is what a Bible is for::)
 

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fuzzybuddy said:
No, Liberty, It has always been my fondest wish to see the pyramids. Why did you ask?
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Well you were talking about Osiris and his sister, who reassembled him. If you had been to Karnak or the V of K, then you would have seen the glyphs chiseled into the massive temples regarding "the fish"...lol.

The oldest cross I ever saw was in the Medicine Temple - known as the Crocodile Temple on the Nile, and it was a fascinating place. We meditated often in the king's chamber of the great pyramid and spent some time between the two front forepaws of the Sphinx.

The "eye of Horus" also called the Eye of Jesus is a fascinating link to our own endocrine gland system and the "single eye" of the human body. The Rosetta stone was the secret to understanding the temple glyphs. Being an anthropolgy student, I couldn't help but become fascinated. Was there last in the late 90's. Everything old is new again.:

http://www.spiritofthescripture.com/id923-Jesus-jacob-and-the-eye-of-horus.html
 
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We don't have to travel all the way to Egypt! That creepy "eye of God" is present on our dollar bills, right at the top of a pyramid. The best I can learn about it is that it has something to do with the Founding Fathers being Masons, and it's a Masonic symbol.
 
Back to the angels.....In order to have angels, there must be a deity , which created them. And that leads back to the debate over the existence of a deity. In my opinion, I believe the atheists have an easier row to hoe. There is no physical proof of a deity. You can't point and say there is God. Those, who say there is a deity, have to offer proof of its existence. Then, they have to offer proof which of the many gods is the true God. And since God is a sentient entity, they have to offer a reason for the act of creation. It gets complicated with a deity. If you say a deity created mankind, well that same deity created cancer, and schizophrenia. ?? That is the theoretical debate about supernatural existence. I don't think we check off a list of proofs for, or against a deity's existence. It is something felt and believed, or it is not.
 
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We don't have to travel all the way to Egypt! That creepy "eye of God" is present on our dollar bills, right at the top of a pyramid. The best I can learn about it is that it has something to do with the Founding Fathers being Masons, and it's a Masonic symbol.
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Not the same thing, Sunny...lol. That's just an eyeball. And travelling to Egypt was great!
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Back to the angels.....In order to have angels, there must be a deity , which created them. And that leads back to the debate over the existence of a deity. I believe the atheists have an easier row to hoe. There is no physical proof of a deity. You can't point and say there is God. Those, who say there is a deity, have to offer proof of its existence. Then, they have to offer proof which of the many gods is the true God. And since God is a sentient entity, they have to offer a reason for the act of creation. It gets complicated with a deity. If you say a deity created mankind, well that same deity created cancer, and schizophrenia. ?? That is the theoretical debate about supernatural existence. I don't think we check off a list of proofs for, or against a deity's existence. It is something felt and believed, or it is not.
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If you are an atheists then you have to prove there isn't a God...lol.

Look at the crap man has created, speaking of creating bad stuff.

Mox nix.
 
Of course there are angels. Satan took some with him when God casts them into hell, and kept the ones that served and praised Him. So, the Bible speaks of angels that hearken to the voice of God's Word. If they are mentioned, they are real and present and at work. Yes they exist. Now, to those that want to argue, you are entitled to your choice of belief, and those that question the Bible, it has never changed it's message, it is the truth, and what you choose to do with it is your prerogative.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
To be totally correct, the question is, does a deity exist? It's impossible to prove it does not. It's a negative. That's what all the theoretical people say. And, in all honestly, there is no physical proof of a deity. You can't point to it. Science is coming closer and closer to a plausible explanation of the Universe, without a deity. Humans have a history of believing in gods. Most believe because they believe, and that is satisfying for them. Yet, that same hunam history has many gods. The most powerful ancient Egyptian god, Osiris, was worshiped for over 2,000 years. We still have remnants of his temples. He was worshiped until the 4th century AD, when Christians slaughtered those, who worshiped the "pagan" god. Today, Osisis is considered a myth; but to those ,who chose to die for their belief, he was a god. Most of the comments about a deity here, have been concerned with a Christian ideation of a deity. I think those, who advocate the existence of a deity, also have offer evidense of what is the true deity.
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Evidence is creation itself, all creatures of foul, fish, human, etc, universe, planets, and anything else you can think of. There is nothing created or not created that God did not make-He made it all. Yes, He really, really exists. There are other gods that are created by mankind, and they are not living and perish over time. God is living and powerful and will never perish. Just my personal input.
 

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