And I never said you called me names, it was in general. You've read posts where anyone who posts anything negative about the vaccines they were called names or tried to be shamed.
BTW, nice way to avoid answering the questions I asked.
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BTW, nice way to avoid answering the questions I asked.
And I never said you called me names, it was in general. You've read posts where anyone who posts anything negative about the vaccines they were called names or tried to be shamed.
BTW, nice way to avoid answering the questions I asked.
I have an important question which does not apply to everybody but will apply to many in the world.
As everyone here knows I cannot wear a mask due to a medical condition so HTH am I supposed to get vaccinated even if I wanted to? You have to wear a mask to be vaccinated right?
You'd be surprised how many of my neighbors who know this still ask me if I've been vaccinated. How is that supposed to happen if I can't wear a mask in the first place.
I mention this for those in the world who may want to be vaccinated and cannot wear a mask to get vaccinated.
As everyone here knows I cannot wear a mask due to a medical condition so HTH am I supposed to get vaccinated even if I wanted to? You have to wear a mask to be vaccinated right?
You'd be surprised how many of my neighbors who know this still ask me if I've been vaccinated. How is that supposed to happen if I can't wear a mask in the first place.
I mention this for those in the world who may want to be vaccinated and cannot wear a mask to get vaccinated.
Well, here's some more information from USC. Take it for what it's worth...
USC Study about vaccination
USC Study about vaccination
JonDouglas
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Does anybody know if "Publish or Perish" is still the watchword in academia? It would be interesting to know how many of these university studies are student theses. Bringing these questions to mind was this bit of information from the study:
The data was collected from participants in the Understanding America Study, which is a nationally representative, probability-based online panel of adults who answer tracking survey questions every two weeks.
Hmmm. Glad to see you challenging this. Here's what you said back in post #19
"Edit Update Note: When someone or something tries to denigrate or "put down" some opposing voice, view or thought on an issue: you know its time to give that view, voice or idea more, not less, attention."
Thanks for playing.
JonDouglas
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I think you've confused the concept of asking questions with challenge. Just so you know, questions are often the best response to studies like this. It's what people who have some basis in math and science do. I've no knowledge of whether the study is good or bad and am not challenging it. In the future, please don't project your thoughts on others. Try asking questions (e.g., "Are you challenging this?).
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Sorry, but you can't unsay what you said, and I'm just using your own words. You were clearly trying to "denigrate" the study by raising issues about it.
In your circumstances...you may be allowed to wear a face shield. Ask your doctor etc.
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Doctoral students are often led to believe that to make headway in academia or to stand out from the crowd in order to get grants or fellowships they need to publish frequently and publish a lot, otherwise they perish.
The truth is, and I think it hasn’t changed since my days at University…most British universities don’t make scientific publications a requirement for the award of the doctorate...don't know how it works in the US.
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Doctoral students are often led to believe that to make headway in academia or to stand out from the crowd in order to get grants or fellowships they need to publish frequently and publish a lot, otherwise they perish.
The truth is, and I think it hasn’t changed since my days at University…most British universities don’t make scientific publications a requirement for the award of the doctorate...don't know how it works in the US.
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JonDouglas
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Asking questions and pointing out an important aspect to the study does not constitute a challenge; however, you seem bent on trying to assign something to me that really isn't there. Nowhere did I say anything negative or positive. If, however, that's the kind of interpretation and behavior behavior that floats your boat, good luck with it.
Wife and I are not getting 'the shot'
I was on the fence, but after our son died earlier this month, four days after the Moderna vaccine....no thanks
Either way, its a crap shoot.
All in all, no matter how much research you do
Know this;
You are the research
Pick yer poison
I was on the fence, but after our son died earlier this month, four days after the Moderna vaccine....no thanks
Either way, its a crap shoot.
All in all, no matter how much research you do
Know this;
You are the research
Pick yer poison
StarSong
Awkward is my Superpower
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People can wear face shields or mask up for the literally two minutes they're exposed to a vaccinator in a drive through vaccine venue. They can also phone vaccine centers and ask what to do.
Most people with serious health challenges figure work-arounds with very little fuss or drama.
They were not the healthiest people around for sure.
Sorry, but once again, you are trying to unsay what you said. Accusations are often posed as questions. Do you still beat your wife? And yes you were clearly trying to impugn the study be questioning the status of the authors, etc. It really is there, in your own words.
And it isn't about me - it's about what you said in your posts, and your feeble efforts to spin them away. If that floats your boat, good luck with it.
So sorry to hear about your son. My condolences.
JonDouglas
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Perhaps someday you'll better appreciate how questions are used to both get people to think and discover if there any any hot spots to be aware of. It helps to remember that a response to posed questions can be quite telling in a number of ways. I trust you've noticed that a lot of threads in this forum start with a question, clever people that they are.
Best regards,
Homeschoolie
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I was having very severe slow thinking, bad memory, etc. problems. Started taking well researched natural supplements to treat it. I VERY much improved.
But then plateaued at my much improved level. Nothing I did brought any further improvement. This went on for years.
UNTIL I had the one shot Johnson and Johnson from the Netherlands. (I am a firm believer that the source that makes substances we use makes a difference too.)
Within a week or so after vaccination my mind improved a lot. I am now quicker thinking, and sharper thinking almost like I was years ago before my decline. I had always had a very quick mind.
It is like night and day difference. I had changed nothing else in my supplements, diet, lifestyle, habits to trigger a change.
For those of you who will jump on this as a vaccine sales pitch or made up story etc.
It is not. It is just sharing what my experience was. I have nothing to gain by making this up and nothing to gain by sharing it.
All I know is whatever it triggered in my body Yippee. I just hope that the fix is permanent and I don't go back to how I was.
But then plateaued at my much improved level. Nothing I did brought any further improvement. This went on for years.
UNTIL I had the one shot Johnson and Johnson from the Netherlands. (I am a firm believer that the source that makes substances we use makes a difference too.)
Within a week or so after vaccination my mind improved a lot. I am now quicker thinking, and sharper thinking almost like I was years ago before my decline. I had always had a very quick mind.
It is like night and day difference. I had changed nothing else in my supplements, diet, lifestyle, habits to trigger a change.
For those of you who will jump on this as a vaccine sales pitch or made up story etc.
It is not. It is just sharing what my experience was. I have nothing to gain by making this up and nothing to gain by sharing it.
All I know is whatever it triggered in my body Yippee. I just hope that the fix is permanent and I don't go back to how I was.
MarciKS
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I already have health problems. I have more forming as we speak I'm sure. What difference is one more gonna make? We're talking about a future that involves us heading for the grave since we're not gonna live forever. And the odds of me developing this stuff later down the road seem of little importance to me considering the fact that I have COPD and could die whenever. I don't fault anyone for not wanting to take it. I just think sometimes people overreact to all the media sensationalism when they may not have any problems at all. I don't spend all day online looking for reasons to get or not to get the vaccine. ALS or not...Alzheimer's or not...I got it in hopes that I won't die a horrible death for the immediate future. Is it guaranteed...no. But nothing in life is.
And just as a side note... @Becky1951 ...I'm in no way mad at you or wanting to ignore your posts. You have your opinions and I have mine. Every time we disagree with someone else's opinion on this site the first thing that happens is usually name calling and mocking. Then the next thing to happen is people complain because someone has disagreed with them. If it's your right to post it...it's my right to speak my opinion just like it is yours. I don't know why it's ok for one group to post their opinions but when someone opposes that everyone's up in arms about it. You can't have a one sided discussion on a site with varying opinions.
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If its true about the vaccines and Alzheimer's, then most all who are in their late 60's 70's or older may see it as no big deal considering their lifespan, however for the younger generation its a Big deal. Instead of a expected percentage of developing Alzheimer's naturally vs developing Alzheimer's due to a vaccine, that's a big deal IMO.
Homeschoolie
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Vaccines do not alter genes:
However COVID DOES ALTER GENES. And not in a good way. Many who have had Covid are permanently damaged from having it.
Four of a hundred from research and medical sources and many independent research scientists. Some modern cancer and other disease treatments inject directly into cells but a vaccine doesn't inject into a cell nucleus.
Cornell University’s Alliance for Science group, who said no vaccine can genetically modify human DNA. “That’s just a myth, one often spread intentionally by anti-vaccination activists to deliberately generate confusion and mistrust,” Lynas told Reuters. “Genetic modification would involve the deliberate insertion of foreign DNA into the nucleus of a human cell, and vaccines simply don’t do that.”
Covid-19 alters Genes:
COVID-19 alters human genes, explaining mystery behind coronavirus 'long haulers' - Study Finds
COVID-19 alters human genes, explaining mystery behind - Freedoms Phoenix
Vacines do not alter genes:
Fact-check: Will a COVID-19 vaccine alter your DNA? - Poynter
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...es-are-not-gene-therapy-as-some-are-claiming/
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MarciKS
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For younger folks I could see that. For us we might get it regardless of the vaccine.
I just hope everything in these articles they're putting out is actual fact. If not then people will be rejecting a vaccine based solely on fear.
I also understand not wanting to take the vaccine if it's not going to stop the virus. But it would be nice to slow it down and take some of it's strength away so that it might become no more harmful than the flu.
Homeschoolie
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Can you call your private physicians office and/or other medical professionals in your area that are overseeing all of the vaccinations and ask them to make special arrangements?
Before any medical professionals were vaccinated, my Ophthalmologist and 1 staff member saw and treated me anyway. At that time they were closed. They wore masks and face shields etc. I had a runny nose, scratchy throat etc. but they knew if I said I had not left my house or been exposed and that what I had was my usual bad allergies that I was telling the truth.
Also my doctors, dentists and even my hairdresser before they got vaccinated were only assisting people that they had a long established relationship with because they knew they could trust them to not visit them when they might have undiagnosed covid.
So, If you have a long term trust relationship with a doctor or nurse they should help you.
Also, the outdoor vaccination locations might be willing to make special provision for you since they all have now been vaccinated and anyway it is literally impossible to get enough virus load outdoors to infect them.
Just some thoughts on what might work for you.
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squatting dog
Remember when... thirty seemed so old.
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If you read the original article... it was the Zinc ions tha have been shown to cause the transformation of TDP-43 to its pathologic prion configuration. The folding of TDP-43 and FUS into their pathologic prion confirmations is known to cause ALS, front temporal lobar degeneration, Alzheimer’s disease and other neurological degenerative diseases.
The zinc was part of the vaccine, so yes, technically the vaccine does not alter DNA. However, the Zinc ion has shown the "POSSIBILITY" of penetrating the DNA nucleus.