Cenegenics: Scam or Legitimate?

Nicely said, David. ;)

Not to detract at all from your Spartan routine, but there's also genetics to consider in any age-management program - something Going Down Swinging did not address at all.

I see it as a bit like gambling: you can increase your odds of winning with proper nutrition, exercise and mental outlook, but the "house" or your genetic make-up is always going to have the edge. Even such body-building luminaries as Schwarzenegger have admitted that genetics are the key to success in that field. You can't trick Mother Nature - you can only give the illusion that you are, and I think that's the card that Cenegenics is playing so heavily.

Testosterone supplementation is a huge issue (pun intended) in bodybuilding and now, seemingly, in age management. The problem is that there are hardly any qualified studies done on supplementation, so anyone who swears by it is doing so solely through faith, not hard proof. You also have to consider the long-term effects of supplementation - shrunken testicles, gynecomastia, rage, etc.
 

You all suck said:
... You all sound like creatins to me.
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I'm just speaking for myself, of course, but I'm pretty sure that we're not ALL amino acids found in the muscle tissue of vertebrates.

Learn to walk before you run and learn to spell before you rant - you'll be a lot more creditable. As it is, right now you're about as significant as a fart in a tornado.

Have a nice day.
 
Hey Phil, freak's okay but you must be wounded by 'lame'.

Just realized what's been missing on this forum, frothers! I'll have to get around more. They're entertaining as hell.
 

Diwundrin said:
Hey Phil, freak's okay but you must be wounded by 'lame'.

Just realized what's been missing on this forum, frothers! I'll have to get around more. They're entertaining as hell.
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Oh, it said "lame"?

I thought it said "lamb" - I took it as a compliment.

Just another case of better living through chemistry, I suppose. What's scary is that people like that are allowed to walk the streets with all that pent-up anger - usually you can find them on top of a clock tower or in a depository window.
 
Our own fine example, and Poster Boy for hormone rage. Where does the line start for the 'therapy'... we need more men walking around in stupor about to snap. :rolleyes:


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Update: Looks like the troll has starved to death, and they took out the trash. :clap:
 
SeaBreeze said:
Our own fine example, and Poster Boy for hormone rage. Where does the line start for the 'therapy'... we need more men walking around in stupor about to snap. :rolleyes:


:trolls:

Update: Looks like the troll has starved to death, and they took out the trash. :clap:
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Not soon enough for my liking. But, good riddance, anyway. Such hate-filled people full of their own poison must suffer greatly and need to share . . . Best to ignore.
 
YAY! More page-views=better ratings=mo' money!

Hey, let's start a thread about killing Santa Claus! AND the Easter Bunny!

Walt Disney was a Commie! Mandatory euthanasia for anyone over 50!

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Bambi's mother deserved to get shot and Old Yeller was a mutt!


KA-CHING! :devilish:
 
SifuPhil did start a good thread that was view by many, I don't doubt the numbers at all. There was some conflict there also, which attracts many lookie-lous. As far as the users online, there are many visitors who are browsing the forum at any given time, so those numbers are likely accurate also.
 
Pappy said:
Bambi's mother got shot? This was the first movie my mom took me to. How sad. I probably cried. However, Thumper and Petunia brightened things up.
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I don't really want to be the one to break the news to you, but Thumper and Petunia ended up as hasenpfeffer in Disney's back-lot cook-out ...

SeaBreeze said:
SifuPhil did start a good thread that was view by many, I don't doubt the numbers at all. There was some conflict there also, which attracts many lookie-lous. As far as the users online, there are many visitors who are browsing the forum at any given time, so those numbers are likely accurate also.
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Thank you.

I'm just trying to follow William Randolph Hurst's famous order: "You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war."

Controversy sells. Big.

That Guy said:
Old Yeller was a tough one, too. Heck when my son watched Benji he cried.
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I must the only person on this board who never actually saw the Old Yeller movie ... :(
 
Guess I"m used to private forums, where you can't get in to read unless you sign up; so the viewers are a lot less. Anyway, I still get teary over Bambi or Old Yeller.

Phil: Bambi was very possiblly one of those anti-hunting, animal rights movies where we realized that animals have families, too; and you don't just shoot them for food for your family. You know how Disney was, after all........ ;)

You never saw Old Yeller??? That was a good one!!
 
We have had this out here in Australia... Didn't last long...I think people found that If they had a decent doctor, who sent you to the pathologist for a complete Blood screening every six months to a year.
Matain a good Diet....exercise you were on the right track. Our health system out here allows us to have blood tests & it is payed under the medicare scheme.
My collesteral is low & all other signs are O/K...at 73 that's all one could wish for.
As for going o a High protein diet...sounds like the old atkins diet & didn't he pass on in his sixties from cancer?
My step Mum was genetically blessed lived to 94...favourite food was pavlovas, cream cakes, ice cream, vegetables.

Remember Ladies & Gentlemen....we only get one go down here, so live & make the best of it!

Just an old mans view!
 
I had hoped to get some objective analysis on the subject here and as usual as most blogs...am seriously disappointed. It's as if we are pre-Renaissance where there is no science...only God. So let me get this straight, if I feel bad or sick somehow, I am to be 'bleeded' and I will feel better ? If my blood pressure is down then I should just get more bed rest ? If my say liver or thyroid is not performing up to snuff, I am to just die gracefully without taking any supplements or adjusting my diet ?

How is it that the caveman almost never saw the age of 30 ? How is it the cotton picking slave almost never saw 40 ? How is it in other words that all we need do is eat well and play golf and we all live to almost 80 ? No, it is science people. So if I was to pay either my doctor or their doctor and find I have certain deficiencies, any follow-up therapy is just a money grab ?

You could cut the arrogance and cynicism here...with a knife. Yes, is isn't cheap we are after all...living in America, history's ultimate for-profit society. What else is new ? You think there will be a CURE or cancer ? Never much to profitable in treating the dying and die you will. Or am I to drink nothing but bottled water, 40% of which is tap water, being intrastate thus escaping FDA scrutiny and is as likely to have styrene, benzine and toluene in it ? We are here in America are to more than anything or any society...make some f...king money.

Get a grip people. Science is always evolving and as we grow older we are not cheating nature in trying to grow older...better and in greater health. How about that vegan in studied health just ran his 10th and last marathon at what...100 ? No, I will not be plunking down the $1000's needed for Cenegenics but I will not ignore the changes in my body as a result of aging just because 'it's nature.' I plan on continuing to have great sex even at 63 as of tomorrow and look as good as I can, be as active as I can and will likely go from a stroke or heart attack...because I am so active. Oh what a wonderful world.
 
If you want objective analysis go to Consumer Reports.

And just as a by-the-way this is a forum, not a blog, so you're going to encounter a LOT of subjective opinions.

Could you please loan me a knife? I want to share my arrogance and cynicism with the entire class ...
 
I think the 'forum' has enough to go around. Class ? With class there exists objective study material. Most, not all but most of what I read here has none.

I went to Google and searched for Cenegenics review. That means those that have actually experienced something for which they have written a review. One does not write a review on a restaurant without going there and eating their food. I think this 'forum' has one person maybe two as I have not gone back and counted...containing a review of Cenegenics having actually sampled the menu. The rest is conversation and are not reviews at all. I guess I need to blame Google hey ?
 
I think the biggest problem Cenegenics faces is sorting out it's paid, marketing spin-doctor forum moles from it's overenthusiastic, literacy impaired, overly aggressive and narcissistic fans. The former aren't all that good at it, and the latter are chasing their customers away.

Just a free and unsolicited tip for you there Cenegenics.
 
Pedestrian said:
I think the 'forum' has enough to go around. Class ? With class there exists objective study material. Most, not all but most of what I read here has none.
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No - it's just teeming with life-experienced folks who aren't all that subject to being swayed by the Great God Medicine, Her Wonders To Perform.

I went to Google and searched for Cenegenics review. That means those that have actually experienced something for which they have written a review. One does not write a review on a restaurant without going there and eating their food. I think this 'forum' has one person maybe two as I have not gone back and counted...containing a review of Cenegenics having actually sampled the menu. The rest is conversation and are not reviews at all. I guess I need to blame Google hey ?
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I think the blame ought to be at least shared by Google, along with your rigid expectations of what the term "review" truly entails.

Google's rating system is a joke, at least as far as their stated purpose of providing rankings based upon authoritative content and popularity. Like most other systems (Cenegenics included) it is subject to manipulation. How many book reviews are written on Amazon by people who haven't even read the book, but are simply hired at Fiverr to "write a review"? How many unctuous, oily movie, play and restaurant critics are actually partaking of that which they review? Not as many as you believe.

It's the Internet - not everything is as it seems or as we expect. If we are to be held to some rigid conversational standard here from which we aren't allowed to deviate then this would be an empty URL.

I think most of all that you're holding the definition of "review" a bit too tightly. Loosen up - you'll live longer than if you were to start taking weekly injections of hormones. And for Buddha's sake at least introduce yourself before you start tearing us a new one, okay? We might not be as worldly as you would like, but at least we observe 'Netiquette.

ETA: I'm the Original Poster and if you look at my OP you won't find the term "review" anywhere within it. More proof of Google's fallibility.
 

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