Gunmen open fire at Bondi Beach in Sydney.

[hollydolly]

That is exactly what is now on the cards. Our gun laws are not national although in each state they are fairly similar. The national government has control on which guns are prohibited imports that can be seized by customs.

The loophole is that one reason you are allowed to own a firearm is being a member of a gun club. Certain classes of firearms are prohibited. The older man, the father, was a member of a gun club and had six long guns. The Prime Minister is talking about restricting the number of guns allowed but I cannot see that doing very much. He is also talking about periodic reassessment of fitness to hold a gun licence. That does not apply now.

I have to subject myself to applying for a fitness to work with children check every so many years. My name is then checked against a national register of people whose behaviour has raised red flags. If I have come before the courts for certain offences my name would be on the register, and I would not be allowed anywhere near children. This applies to paid workers like nurses and also to people like me who volunteer at a preschool, a school, or who are youth leaders. Scout leaders, music teachers and anyone else who has access and contact with children must submit to periodic scrutiny

It makes sense to apply similar checks for gun ownership.

The gun laws are the same here Warri....

 

[hollydolly]

According to the ABC video, the shooters were taking fire in a bit under 4 minutes. The claim that the police were tardy, taking 20 to 30 minutes to begin responding to the situation, is not sustainable.

On another note, the Blood Bank is appealing for blood donors to come forward. I am too old now, but my daughter will step up. Our blood banks do not pay for donations and do not charge hospitals for blood and plasma.

actually a lot of reports are stating that the police were hiding behind their cars...one newsreader quickly corrected himself and said'' taking cover''.... while civilians were trying to fight the gunmen

 

[WhatInThe]

One essential question is: why was the 50-year-old shooter licensed to own firearms? Strict gun laws don't do any good if there are ways to get around them. Hopefully, after this, they'll re-evaluate their licensing criteria.

The will to kill. Even with guns they made bombs.

Things change. I don't think the dad purchased guns with a terror attack in mind.The question is who became radical and did they radicalize the other

 

[KSav]

This link provides some details about people killed in the attack

MSN

Thank you for this, @Warrigal. With mass casualties such as this I think it is important to remember that these were individuals, each with hopes, joys, and dreams.

 

[dusty]

Deaths of this kind, murders of this kind, aren't worse if they involve people of the Jewish faith. A life is a life. It's heinous. Terrible. No matter the faith, no matter the political leaning, murder is murder.

I beg to differ.

 

[VaughanJB]

I beg to differ.

Please explain (in PM's if necessary). How is it worse than a life is a life?

 

[CallMeKate]

I beg to differ.

Are you suggesting one life is more precious than another?

 

[VaughanJB]

Well, the Jews do have a history of being targeted simply for being Jewish, so that makes it a bit worse.

I'm curious - how much time have you spent looking at, specifically, Christian persecution? A quick search suggests there are 380m persecuted Christians today.

Again - what happened was heinous, terrible, and a disgrace. I am in no way minimizing the acts of madness.

At the same time this event is happening, there has been some mass-shooter killing at Brown University. How is a death of one, worse, or more significant, than the other?

 

[January]

and there have been at least 2 mass shootings of people in mosques - one in New Zealand and one in Canada - these events are all terrible.

None are any worse or better than any others - they are all equally terrible.

 

[Warrigal]

Just discovered on the ABC. A detailed account of events with video and photos that help understand the location and draws together information from a number of sources.

A Google camera captured a recognisable car outside the alleged terrorists' house

 

[Kadee]

apprently where they were staying ( living .?) is a share house that costs $90 a day

Copied from Apple News …****
The father and son believed to be the two terrorists who opened fire on a crowd of thousands at Bondi Beach on Sunday had been staying at a $90-a-night rental in Campsie.

It’s understood the rental in Campsie was shared accommodation. It is also advertised on Booking.com for about $90 a night.


Listed as “La Casa Di Dicembre”, the address is promoted as a homestay experience with a shared bathroom.


The listing states each room includes air-conditioning, a hair dryer, a refrigerator and shower facilities with a shared kitchen area.


It is understood there are at least six self-contained units within the property in Campsie.


Six key-box safes are bolted to the front of the property.


Federal officers were seen removing other residents from the property with their luggage on Monday.

 

[KSav]

I just saw that two more heroic bystanders also tried to intervene. Warning: These images are pretty distressing.

Heroic couple died in each other’s arms after trying to disarm Bondi Beach terrorists, devastating video shows