Many Women Will Never See Justice in This Lifetime

Sometimes it's the 2nd wives. A lady I worked with was divorced and things with her ex-husband were OK, until he remarried. Then the 2nd wife started demanding more for her and her child which left less for his children with his first wife. She spent a fortune in court fighting this kind of stuff.

Sometimes, a gal just needs another man and things improve. A guy I used to work with was divorced. His wife was horrible about visitation rights, often using the slightest cough to cancel his weekend with the kids. Then his wife really hit it off with a new boyfriend. Next thing my coworker knew, she was asking him to take the kids on extra weekends, and for a longer than agreed time in the summer.
 

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Yep life has it's ups and downs. Getting justice is hard in many different situations, and life isn't fair. Sometimes it feels like we are cruising down the mountain, but most times it IS hard and feels like we are being misused in someway. It becomes a burden, especially for minorities.

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Perhaps the question should why are some men ( because it is nearly always men) unable or unwilling to control their behaviour?
You're kidding, right? There's a karen having another meltdown in every house on every street in every store, at every gathering. We got karens on six-inch centers. Whoops, there goes another squirrelly one.

Men are deadly dangerous animals. There is a difference.
 
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You're kidding, right? There's a karen having another meltdown in every house on every street in every store, at every gathering. We got karens on six-inch centers. Whoops, there goes another squirrelly one.

Men are deadly dangerous animals. There is a difference.

No I certainly was not kidding.
 
There is a book about the woman right behind her with the big mouth. She wrote the book repenting for that and reached out to the black woman. It was interesting. The black woman went on to struggle in life. Imagine enduring all that hate to attend a school.
I have her book I got at a thrift store. I think it's called Warriors Don't Cry. I'm yet to read it. The two women became friends for a while but the white lady had a hard time going to talks and being put down so much. Complicated situation. I hope she did change in her own heart. Kids were horribly influenced during that time by what they learned from their own parents.
 
Ok from a male perspective with 4 children from two wives and a very short marriage at the end. I taught elementary PE for about 40 yrs. Most of my colleagues were women. I have to say almost every woman I worked with was diligent hard working and cared. I made some good friends with some women. My first wife was and is a wonderful person. She and I speak often and my 2nd wife is a good person but raised by lousy parents and a awful father.

THANK God she found her real dad when that one died and her aunt told her the truth. At the age of 53 she found her real dad (who knew NOTHING about her) and he embraced her and our two kids. Btw she calls me often as we share our kids a lot. She watches out for me and I her. Its why #3 left quickly.

But my real point is my feelings and thoughts about women in general. Women are the stronger sex. They have the children. Because they are women they are supposed to be the nurturing parent and do the "woman" things. If they have a job they are still (in many cases) expected to do those things. Now this is from my many years of observing women up close. When I had my surgery late in 2023 women reached out to me and helped.

Then I heard their stories or maybe just really listened. Women have to trust in people and men. Not saying men don't have to trust women but the majority of men I know that divorced didn't do their duty and take care of the kids. It kills me to see that. Men still have the power in many cases.

But I know women can be just as bad with how they do in situations. Violence is almost always from man to woman and is devastating. Some women feel trapped because they have stayed home with kids and make no money. Of course there are many terrible women like there are bad men. I just know in my cases the men were the bad guys usually.

Btw I did much of the cooking and laundry in my marriages and LOVED the child care. I worked with elem. kids my whole life and kids were easy for me. Oddly enough I am alone now but still have two kids at home. My 17 yr old girl is a joy. My older son is autistic and struggles but he is amazing. High functioning.

I always felt lucky working with so many women. For the most part they were very kind to me and treated me well. Especially my two female principals. Of course I helped them as much as I could doing whatever they asked if I could.
 
Ok from a male perspective with 4 children from two wives and a very short marriage at the end. I taught elementary PE for about 40 yrs. Most of my colleagues were women. I have to say almost every woman I worked with was diligent hard working and cared. I made some good friends with some women. My first wife was and is a wonderful person. She and I speak often and my 2nd wife is a good person but raised by lousy parents and a awful father.

THANK God she found her real dad when that one died and her aunt told her the truth. At the age of 53 she found her real dad (who knew NOTHING about her) and he embraced her and our two kids. Btw she calls me often as we share our kids a lot. She watches out for me and I her. Its why #3 left quickly.

But my real point is my feelings and thoughts about women in general. Women are the stronger sex. They have the children. Because they are women they are supposed to be the nurturing parent and do the "woman" things. If they have a job they are still (in many cases) expected to do those things. Now this is from my many years of observing women up close. When I had my surgery late in 2023 women reached out to me and helped.

Then I heard their stories or maybe just really listened. Women have to trust in people and men. Not saying men don't have to trust women but the majority of men I know that divorced didn't do their duty and take care of the kids. It kills me to see that. Men still have the power in many cases.

But I know women can be just as bad with how they do in situations. Violence is almost always from man to woman and is devastating. Some women feel trapped because they have stayed home with kids and make no money. Of course there are many terrible women like there are bad men. I just know in my cases the men were the bad guys usually.

Btw I did much of the cooking and laundry in my marriages and LOVED the child care. I worked with elem. kids my whole life and kids were easy for me. Oddly enough I am alone now but still have two kids at home. My 17 yr old girl is a joy. My older son is autistic and struggles but he is amazing. High functioning.

I always felt lucky working with so many women. For the most part they were very kind to me and treated me well. Especially my two female principals. Of course I helped them as much as I could doing whatever they asked if I could.
Kudos, or as we say in Australia, "Onya, mate".
 
Ok from a male perspective with 4 children from two wives and a very short marriage at the end. I taught elementary PE for about 40 yrs. Most of my colleagues were women. I have to say almost every woman I worked with was diligent hard working and cared. I made some good friends with some women. My first wife was and is a wonderful person. She and I speak often and my 2nd wife is a good person but raised by lousy parents and a awful father.

THANK God she found her real dad when that one died and her aunt told her the truth. At the age of 53 she found her real dad (who knew NOTHING about her) and he embraced her and our two kids. Btw she calls me often as we share our kids a lot. She watches out for me and I her. Its why #3 left quickly.

But my real point is my feelings and thoughts about women in general. Women are the stronger sex. They have the children. Because they are women they are supposed to be the nurturing parent and do the "woman" things. If they have a job they are still (in many cases) expected to do those things. Now this is from my many years of observing women up close. When I had my surgery late in 2023 women reached out to me and helped.

Then I heard their stories or maybe just really listened. Women have to trust in people and men. Not saying men don't have to trust women but the majority of men I know that divorced didn't do their duty and take care of the kids. It kills me to see that. Men still have the power in many cases.

But I know women can be just as bad with how they do in situations. Violence is almost always from man to woman and is devastating. Some women feel trapped because they have stayed home with kids and make no money. Of course there are many terrible women like there are bad men. I just know in my cases the men were the bad guys usually.

Btw I did much of the cooking and laundry in my marriages and LOVED the child care. I worked with elem. kids my whole life and kids were easy for me. Oddly enough I am alone now but still have two kids at home. My 17 yr old girl is a joy. My older son is autistic and struggles but he is amazing. High functioning.

I always felt lucky working with so many women. For the most part they were very kind to me and treated me well. Especially my two female principals. Of course I helped them as much as I could doing whatever they asked if I could.
THIS made my day!
 
"Women's Predicament in Society"? What "justice" are we talking about?

LIFE is never going to be EASY, no matter the road.

I was a single mother and it is hard work, but I never sat around and said "Woe is me!". I never felt like anyone did me some "injustice" or that I was a victim of anything other than my own choices once, I was 17 years old.

There were times back in the 70s when women didn't have the options young women have today; but then again our grandmothers couldn't vote, either. They would not let me attend the military academies, which would have been great, if I'd had the grades and the people backing me up, encouraging me. But many of the injustices have been corrected or are being corrected; it takes time, and step by step society evolves. Am just happy my generation wasn't my grandmother's generation. I got in the military because it was an equal pay for equal rank situation.

Sitting around feeling like someone owes me something from some "injustice" or that men are to blame for me not being everything I can be? What a waste of time, and a chip on the shoulder attitude doesn't endear one to anyone.

There are women throughout history that did well with their brains and that is what is important in my estimation. I don't want some men's standard to be lowered so that "poor little me" can have an advantage; I like to compete on my OWN merits and would resent being given favoritism because I am a woman.

I don't know about other women, who have been single parents, but I didn't mind it, it was very hard and I sometimes didn't get to eat so my daughter could eat, but I didn't starve, I made a plan, I stuck with it, I worked harder! I am proud of how well I managed it all and brought myself up out of poverty and circumstances that would have killed some people.

I don't care if her father helped me or not, or how much, she was made by two adults, and at least one has to step up and be the better person.
 
"Women's Predicament in Society"? What "justice" are we talking about?

LIFE is never going to be EASY, no matter the road.

There are women throughout history that did well with their brains and that is what is important in my estimation. I don't want some men's standard to be lowered so that "poor little me" can have an advantage; I like to compete on my OWN merits and would resent being given favoritism because I am a woman.
Aye, there's the rub. In my experience the scales were tipped towards men and boys when I was a young woman.

Things are better now but as long as women are paid less for doing the same work as their male colleagues, then a form of favouritism is still tipping the scales against women. Secrecy about how much each employee is paid serves to keep this example of male privilege from being exposed to the light.
 
I really can't even recall a case of "blatant discrimination based on gender" since about 1976?
Perhaps you have been lucky. A quick search using "Discrimination against women USA" threw up a link to a reputable research organisation, the Pew Research Organisation. Gender based discrimination is experienced by both men and women but more so by women, especially women of colour who suffer a double whammy.

Gender discrimination comes in many forms for today’s working women

Gender discrimination comes in many forms for today’s working women​

About four-in-ten working women (42%) in the United States say they have faced discrimination on the job because of their gender. They report a broad array of personal experiences, ranging from earning less than male counterparts for doing the same job to being passed over for important assignments, according to a new analysis of Pew Research Center survey data.

The survey – conducted in the summer before a recent wave of sexual misconduct allegations against prominent men in politics, the media and other industries – found that, among employed adults, women are about twice as likely as men (42% versus 22%) to say they have experienced at least one of eight specific forms of gender discrimination at work.

One of the biggest gender gaps is in the area of income: One-in-four working women (25%) say they have earned less than a man who was doing the same job; one-in-twenty working men (5%) say they have earned less than a female peer.

Women are roughly four times as likely as men to say they have been treated as if they were not competent because of their gender (23% of employed women versus 6% of men), and they are about three times as likely as men to say they have experienced repeated small slights at work because of their gender (16% versus 5%).

There are significant gaps on other items as well. While 15% of working women say they have received less support from senior leaders than a man who was doing the same job, only 7% of working men report having a similar experience. One-in-ten working women say they have been passed over for the most important assignments because of their gender, compared with 5% of men.

The survey, which was conducted July 11-Aug. 10, 2017, with a nationally representative sample of 4,914 adults (including 4,702 who are employed at least part time), also asked about sexual harassment in a separate question. It found that while similar shares of women and men say sexual harassment is at least a small problem in their workplace (36% versus 35%), women are about three times as likely as men to have experienced it personally while at work (22% versus 7%).

In more recent surveys conducted by other organizations, the share of women reporting personal experiences with sexual harassment has fluctuated, depending in part on how the question was asked. In an ABC News/Washington Post survey conducted Oct. 12-15, for example, 54% of women said they have received unwanted sexual advances from a man that they felt were inappropriate whether or not those advances were work-related; 30% said this had happened to them at work. In an NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll conducted Nov. 13-15, 35% of women said they have personally experienced sexual harassment or abuse from someone in the workplace.

The Center’s survey asked about sexual harassment specific to the workplace. The survey was conducted as part of a broader forthcoming study on women and minorities in science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) fields.

Differences by education​

Among employed women, the share saying they have experienced sexual harassment in the workplace is roughly similar across racial and ethnic, educational, generational and partisan lines. But when it comes to specific forms of workplace discrimination tested in the survey, there are significant differences among women that are rooted mainly in their level of education.

Women with a bachelor’s degree or more education report experiencing discrimination across a range of items at significantly higher rates than women with less education. And in some regards, the most highly educated women stand out. While 57% of working women with a postgraduate degree say they have experienced some form of gender discrimination at work, for example, the same is true for 40% of women with a bachelor’s degree and 39% of those who did not complete college.
Roughly three-in-ten working women with a postgraduate degree (29%) say they have experienced repeated small slights at work because of their gender, compared with 18% of those with a bachelor’s degree and 12% with less education. Similarly, working women with a postgraduate degree are much more likely than their less-educated counterparts to say they have received less support from senior leaders than a man doing the same job (27% of postgraduate women, compared with 11% of women with bachelor’s degrees and 13% of women with less education). The pattern is similar when it comes to being passed over for promotions and feeling isolated at work.

When it comes to wages, working women with a bachelor’s degree or more are much more likely than those with less education to say they have earned less than a man who performed the same job. Women with family incomes of $100,000 or higher stand out here as well – 30% of them say they’ve earned less than a man who was doing comparable work compared with roughly one-in-five women with lower incomes (21%). But overall, women with higher family incomes are about equally likely to have experienced at least one of these eight forms of gender-based discrimination at work.
 
Come on folks, life is not fair! Never has been and probably never will be...

Don't waste time worrying about if you were being treated 'fairly' or poorly treated because of your color, gender, or whatever. If you don't like what you are doing, move on! Our society has plenty of opportunities, you just have to go after them...you can find one that you like!
 
Come on folks, life is not fair! Never has been and probably never will be...

Don't waste time worrying about if you were being treated 'fairly' or poorly treated because of your color, gender, or whatever. If you don't like what you are doing, move on! Our society has plenty of opportunities, you just have to go after them...you can find one that you like!
This is where we differ. I am concerned about the women I have never met who continue to experience workplace discrimination, especially with regards to their earnings.

I actually had it fairly good because when I started teaching female teachers had already achieved equal pay to men. This allowed me to have economic security in my old age, just like the males. This is how it should be.
 


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