George1959
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Yes, if it were his guns.Let me see if I understand ..... two of the three 'killers' are British , one is American, ..... but it is the American's fault ?
Yes, if it were his guns.Let me see if I understand ..... two of the three 'killers' are British , one is American, ..... but it is the American's fault ?
It's never about love for the child or you wouldn't be killing the people they love. It's about possession, money and control.Wkipedia:The Pike County Shootings, also known as the Pike County Massacre, occurred on the night of April 21–22, 2016, when eight people – all belonging to the Rhoden family – were shot and killed in four homes in Pike County, Ohio.
I'm only stating what was reported in the media... see my updateLet me see if I understand ..... two of the three 'killers' are British , one is American, ..... but it is the American's fault ?
Part of responsible gun ownership is not having guns easily accessible. These open in 1 second - but only for authorized persons.So it's not the drugs it's the coffee!
I agree about the problem of parents in denial. I was sorry Adam Lanza shot his mother before going to Sandy Hook elementary because I wanted her to live and answer for her incredibly stupid decision to buy guns for her son who was so disturbed he hadn't left his bedroom in years. In my house we not only don't have guns, we don't have knives except for one small paring knife and yes I can carve a turkey with that thing.
But I think there's another type of denial going on. With 54% of the 45,000 gun deaths in 2020 being suicide by gun, clearly it's not just the mentally ill who shouldn't have guns in the house. If you have anyone in your house with a gambling problem, anyone with serious financial problems, anyone unemployed, a teenager of any type, then you should think twice about having that gun easily accessible.
No, it's the sick minds of morning people. Okay, bad joke.So it's not the drugs it's the coffee!
Open carry makes a lot of people nervous and people will chase you out of stores, etc. It’s OK for the cowboys in Montana and such, but not a good idea for us civilians.Not in L.A. Law was passed a few years ago.
Even in states where open carry is permitted, people are often harassed by some police officers who don't like it. Many such incidents on "YouTube."
I'm not in favor of open carry, anyway.
I'm only stating what was reported in the media... see my update
Yes, if it were his guns.
He was one of the killers and in my opinion gave his second gun to the other killer. So is it his fault or is it not? Of course it is.So, let me see if I understand .... If you steal and use my gun to shoot someone , it is [as per your logic] somehow my fault ?
Exactly, we’ll have to wait and see how much is redacted.Manifesto to be released after the FBI reviews it.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/29/nashville-shooter-audrey-hales-manifesto-will-be-released/
Could wind up being another JFK document all blacked out. Hopefully it will reveal something that might help in the future.
He was one of the killers and in my opinion gave his second gun to the other killer. So is it his fault or is it not? Of course it is.
Well, he certainly isn't blameless.Let me see if I understand ..... two of the three 'killers' are British , one is American, ..... but it is the American's fault ?
You would definitely have questions to answer about how the gun was acquired.So, let me see if I understand .... If you steal and use my gun to shoot someone , it is [as per your logic] somehow my fault ?
Well, he certainly isn't blameless.
You would definitely have questions to answer about how the gun was acquired.
Agreed, and I am not suggesting that he is guilty of any crime because I know very little about this crime of murder that has taken place. There are questions that remain in my mind but it is up to the police to decide whether to lay charges.Having questions to answer .... is a far cry from the accusation & being charged with the murder.
I'm all for outlawing AR-15 style rifles, which are high-capacity semi-automatic rifles and have been used in many of the most deadly mass killings. But there are also semi-automatic pistols which should remain legal for home protection (in my opinion). Bump stocks were outlawed in 2019 because they, in effect, turn semi-automatic rifles, such as the AR-15, into machineguns, which are illegal.Criminalize the sale and possession of all semI automatic weapons, as well as devices like the bump stock.
Agreed, and I am not suggesting that he is guilty of any crime because I know very little about this crime of murder that has taken place. There are questions that remain in my mind but it is up to the police to decide whether to lay charges.
Yes, you have a point. Obviously there cannot be any suggestion that he participated in the murders of he would also have been charged.And once again, as per @hollydolly in an earlier post/reply, he has been exonerated of charges.
Could they [the authorities] change their minds ? Of course, but for now he has been cleared.
Yes, you have a point. Obviously there cannot be any suggestion that he participated in the murders of he would also have been charged.
Exonerated is not really a legal term. It has a rather broad meaning. I preferred your word - cleared. Should additional evidence come to light he could still face lesser charges relating to his gun ownership, such as careless securing of a dangerous weapon.
I don't really understand what got into the head of the grandfather though. I wonder what made him snap and go after two victims miles apart.