Will The Taliban Take Kabul on 9-11?

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A former U.S. Army was on the tube this morning adding to the reason the govt. is losing to the Taliban is lack of weapons and ammo and supplies Again, what were we doing there if that is true? Handing out rocks and rubber bands? The govt. troops are said to be surrendering by the droves. We will never know the extent of the massacre coming to a those that sided with the U.S. troops not to mention the women. We walked away from Syria and now Afghanistan right or wrong it is not good PR.
 
Goot stuff as usual Trax
Someday bin Laden will be declared a saint (however that's done by Muslin's Hierarchy )

Lots of info here, how could we get ourselves into another Vietnam?
 

Don M. said:
For Sure! The US has given the Afghan military a huge amount of vehicles and arms. It appears that the Afghan military is just quietly giving up, and the Taliban is taking the weapons and vehicles.
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A few months ago I posted that the Taliban would takeover Afghanistan once Americans began their pullout and I was belittled for that post.

One of the other items you missed that the Taliban will be inheriting is the $700+ million dollar U.S. Embassy that was built with our tax money. This pullout plan has been a disaster and a whiplashing to the backs of those military personnel that gave their all. Total assets that will be handed over to the Taliban is in the billions of dollars. They probably won’t even thank us.
 
Aunt Bea said:
The situation reminds me of helicopter parents that are shocked when their children turn 18 and are not self sufficient adults.

We’ve spent an entire generation doing the heavy lifting and now we find out that either the people of Afghanistan are not able to defend themselves or perhaps have no interest in the agenda that we’ve been promoting.

The whole thing has been a tragic waste on so many levels.
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I imagine it's hard to get excited and supportive over a war that some foreign power decided was necessary on their homeland.

Vietnam revisited.
 
Don M. said:
For Sure! The US has given the Afghan military a huge amount of vehicles and arms. It appears that the Afghan military is just quietly giving up, and the Taliban is taking the weapons and vehicles.
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You might not believe this, but the US military knew that the Taliban would take that stuff. It was intentional. They knew that either the Taliban or Afghan rebels (it didn't matter which) would use it against a large number of Hamas soldiers that had crept in. (Plus, not worth the cost of moving it)

My son served in Afghanistan shortly before he retired at the rank of Chief Petty Officer (Seabees/reserves), and a lot of his former subordinates and fellows keep in frequent touch with him.
 
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Trax: was read your Taliban Links, received email that Kabul fell to the Taliban.
CNN says there are still staff members in U.S. Embassy.
The 5000 American Troops some are in-country, a few, (How Many? CNN fuzzy on topic)
No slaughter of Americans is taking place, none expected
 
Alligatorob said:
Hope that is true and continues. I would think the Taliban would see no value and some risk in attacking our people.

But then the Taliban have done a lot of things that make no sense to me.
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Yea, your right, the hierarchy doesn't want to irritate U.S., but as you say, no telling what a local commander might do=dicey
 
The Russians gave it ten hard years.
We didn't learn a lot from their failure.

There already playing the blame game on the news channels 👎

(Mellow: have noted that Great Britain appeared to us Aussie and New Zealand troops as cannon fodder-is that a topic in your world?)
 
Nathan said:
history inevitably will always repeat itself
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It does and it did again.

The imperialistic invasion failed as it did in Iraq and Vietnam because the USA failed to win over the majority of the population in those countries. True, the wars did generate huge profits for the military industrial complex which was the real intent behind each war despite all the pro war propaganda you got from the news media. But despite all the trillions wasted in the wars they were lost as the patriots in those countries fought to defend their countries and their governments over the puppet regimes imposed by Washington DC. This is not what you see in the Fox network or the rest of the pro war media. But it is fact whether anyone choose to believe it or not.
 
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jerry old said:
The Russians gave it ten hard years.
We didn't learn a lot from their failure.

There already playing the blame game on the news channels 👎

(Mellow: have noted that Great Britain appeared to us Aussie and New Zealand troops as cannon fodder-is that a topic in your world?)
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Yes Jerry, the old bulldog was no friend of Australia

Although happy to take all the sailors, soldiers and airmen that Australia was prepared to place at his disposal for the defence of Britain, Churchill had no concern about Australia's fate when Japan's conquering armies menaced Australia. His assurances of British military support for Australia against the Japanese were lies. He had already betrayed Australia to the Japanese at the Arcadia Conference held in Washington in late December 1941. Churchill even resisted the return of Australian troops from the Middle East to defend their own country; he wanted to use them In Burma to defend India against the advancing Japanese.

https://www.pacificwar.org.au/battaust/Britain_betrays_Australia.html
 
I firmly believe that the U.S. should keep its nose out of the strife that other nations face. Teddy Roosevelt had it right, IMO....Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick. If we, or our close allies are attacked, we should respond quickly and with maximum force to show the "attackers" that they made a Bad decision. In this case, the objective should have been to "eliminate" Bin Laden, then let Afghanistan figure out how to handle the Taliban on their own....IMO. If their people think that such "extremism" is acceptable, there is little we can do to change their minds.
 
Non-extremist Afghans--especially women--are who we need to prioritize for legal asylum. But illegals like the woman from Guatemala who came across the Mexican border because her utility bills were going up are clogging the system for those truly in danger.
 
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Kabul has fallen to the Taliban. The country is now another failed nation state, AND a future home to world Islamic terrorism. Get ready America, the next Osama Bin laden is coming.
 

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