End of the Manly Man?

A lot of people that I know associate the extreme grooming thing with gay men...but I have to say that the most masculine man I've ever met was a former neighbor. He was a gay man who went to college on an athletic scholarship (football) and went on to have a 20 year career with the Boston police., with several of those years as a SWAT team member. He was certainly neat and clean, but that was the extent of his interest in grooming.

I have a young neighbor, in her 20s, and her boyfriend spends more money for clothing and hairstyles and manicures and such than she does. She thinks it's "cute"...I frankly find it a little creepy. I guess I'm showing my age and my old lady standards...
 
Autumn said:
A lot of people that I know associate the extreme grooming thing with gay men...but I have to say that the most masculine man I've ever met was a former neighbor. He was a gay man who went to college on an athletic scholarship (football) and went on to have a 20 year career with the Boston police., with several of those years as a SWAT team member. He was certainly neat and clean, but that was the extent of his interest in grooming.

I have a young neighbor, in her 20s, and her boyfriend spends more money for clothing and hairstyles and manicures and such than she does. She thinks it's "cute"...I frankly find it a little creepy. I guess I'm showing my age and my old lady standards...
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Show your age and old lady standards, and I'll join you.

A little TLC for any man is a marvelous thing, but the guy you describe (neighbours boyfriend) sounds feminine to me.
 

Aunt Marg said:
Show your age and old lady standards, and I'll join you.

A little TLC for any man is a marvelous thing, but the guy you describe (neighbours boyfriend) sounds feminine to me.
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He sounds self absorbed to me. I am pretty, oh so pretty, I am pretty, and witty, and pretty. My girlfriend’s jealous, oh so jealous, cause I am pretty, oh so pretty. 😂
 
Aneeda72 said:
He sounds self absorbed to me. I am pretty, oh so pretty, I am pretty, and witty, and pretty. My girlfriend’s jealous, oh so jealous, cause I am pretty, oh so pretty. 😂
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Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the prettiest of all? ROFLMAO!

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Oh YES! Men are ABSOLUTELY MORE EFFEMINATE!!!!! I've watched this more and more over the years.
haha! This was similar to my first post on the Senior Forum and I was debased for my assertion.
What happened to the rugged, wild, untamed spirit of a commanding REAL MAN?
Someone who is bold, unafraid, confident, strong, self-actualized, stands alone; where is he?
Now, They SHAVE their masculine body hair and WEAR MAKE-UP?
Even shave their faces to please someone who doesn't appreciate them THE WAY THEY ARE?
I want to cry! This is so sad!
It IS what's inside that's important.
A real man has ethics, values, individuality, the strength of the qualities of the soul!
It's in their stance, their voice, their demeanor.
So, why can't a real man be tender, loving and spiritual inside and masculine on the outside?

and why are women ACCEPTING THIS feminine exploit as the norm?
God, WHERE ARE THE MEN?
 
Gaer said:
Oh YES! Men are ABSOLUTELY MORE EFFEMINATE!!!!! I've watched this more and more over the years.
haha! This was similar to my first post on the Senior Forum and I was debased for my assertion.
What happened to the rugged, wild, untamed spirit of a commanding REAL MAN?
Someone who is bold, unafraid, confident, strong, self-actualized, stands alone; where is he?
Now, They SHAVE their masculine body hair and WEAR MAKE-UP?
Even shave their faces to please someone who doesn't appreciate them THE WAY THEY ARE?
I want to cry! This is so sad!
It IS what's inside that's important.
A real man has ethics, values, individuality, the strength of the qualities of the soul!
It's in their stance, their voice, their demeanor.
So, why can't a real man be tender, loving and spiritual inside and masculine on the outside?

and why are women ACCEPTING THIS feminine exploit as the norm?
God, WHERE ARE THE MEN?
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They absolutely can, Gaer, and those types are still out there, but the alternative sure has made serious strides over the past decade or two, haven't they?
 
Katybug said:
Doesn't faze me, I LOVE Elton's music, he's one of my favorites.

There aren't many stars I dislike, Arnie being one, and I've seen him up close and personal. I was visiting my friend in Aspen and he walked out of Planet Hollywood (he was part-owner) eating an ice cream cone, as we were walking in. He held the door for us. The restaurant was sooo overrated, wasn't what you'd call an upscale restaurant by any means, just trendy, and I wanted to go there. The food was very mediocre and way overpriced!

HE IS SOOOO SHORT, I couldn't believe it! Although it was obviously him, I confirmed it with our waitress. Short or tall, I really don't like him, crass womanizer that he is! But I would cross the street to avoid Tom Cruise, really, really don't like the man and it has nothing to do with his sexual preference whatever it may be! Also have to admit, used to LOVE Travolta and he's another one that now totally turns me off. If he would stop with the B-S and come out of the closet, I would have more respect!
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Schwarzenegger is short ? I thought he was in the 6'1-6'2 range ?

How tall did he look?
 
I am lucky. I haven't had cable TV for over 17 so I don't watch girlie guys. I watch DVDs like Gunsmoke, The Rifleman & Rawhide. Absolutely, no girlie-men on any of those shows. The fact is that perverts or queers always get on cable TV for their 15 minutes (or is 5 minutes) of glory. The normal people, like me & 95% of the population never are on TV. If you are crazy the media chases you like a bear chasing honey. Such is the world. I prefer watching Marshall Dillon, Lucas McCane & Gil Favour (head driver on Rawhide). None of these guys every shaved their legs or put on perfume. Maybe they are like me so maybe that is why I watch them. You, you can watch what turns you on! LOL
 
Gaer said:
Oh YES! Men are ABSOLUTELY MORE EFFEMINATE!!!!! I've watched this more and more over the years.
haha! This was similar to my first post on the Senior Forum and I was debased for my assertion.
What happened to the rugged, wild, untamed spirit of a commanding REAL MAN?
Someone who is bold, unafraid, confident, strong, self-actualized, stands alone; where is he?
Now, They SHAVE their masculine body hair and WEAR MAKE-UP?
Even shave their faces to please someone who doesn't appreciate them THE WAY THEY ARE?
I want to cry! This is so sad!
It IS what's inside that's important.
A real man has ethics, values, individuality, the strength of the qualities of the soul!
It's in their stance, their voice, their demeanor.
So, why can't a real man be tender, loving and spiritual inside and masculine on the outside?

and why are women ACCEPTING THIS feminine exploit as the norm?
God, WHERE ARE THE MEN?
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Get yourself over to my cave, girl. 😊
 
Hmm, being gay is normal. Also, some of the most masculine men I have ever met happen to be gay military. I have one client whom I am positive was Special Forces, although we never discuss it. Another client, an Afghan vet, lost two limbs while rescuing injured soldiers. Both these gentlemen are highly decorated combat vets, and were deployed overseas multiple times. It is an honour and a privilege to be in their company. 🇨🇦
 
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Ferocious said:
Sorry, Ruth, if anyone looking like Bowie stood next to me in the Gents and gave me the 'Glad Eye', I'd be tempted to give him a smack in the teeth. 👊
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That is very sad. I yearn for a day when compassion and acceptance of our differences as human beings replace homophobia. Perhaps then, our teens and young people will not embrace suicide because they have feelings for their own gender. 😢
 
We used to have a policeman in this town who got fired for using the police computer for doing work regarding his private martial arts studio, and for soliciting sex from other men. How do you categorize this person?
 
Procreation folks, that's what it's all about.

Rock Hudson was a funny-boy, when I found out Randolph Scott and he were more than friends-Ug!
Funny-boys running around posing as rugged cowboys is too far for my imagination to stretch.
 
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Packerjohn said:
I am lucky. I haven't had cable TV for over 17 so I don't watch girlie guys. I watch DVDs like Gunsmoke, The Rifleman & Rawhide. Absolutely, no girlie-men on any of those shows. The fact is that perverts or queers always get on cable TV for their 15 minutes (or is 5 minutes) of glory. The normal people, like me & 95% of the population never are on TV. If you are crazy the media chases you like a bear chasing honey. Such is the world. I prefer watching Marshall Dillon, Lucas McCane & Gil Favour (head driver on Rawhide). None of these guys every shaved their legs or put on perfume. Maybe they are like me so maybe that is why I watch them. You, you can watch what turns you on! LOL
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WOW just WOW, just when I think I have read everything, something else pops up that I feel compelled to reply to. As if the way a person dresses, the way an actor dresses in an old time cowboy, indicates their private sexual preferences. 😂😂😂

That guy is in a cowboy movie, he’s not gay, 🤣🤣🤣. Plus I really object to your verbiage. Although I recognize your right to be fearful of gay men, I do not understand it. But here is a list of manly men for you:

Clark Gable, Montgomery Clift, Robert Reed, Raymond Burr, Marlon Brando, Rock Hudson, and a modern favor of min-a really manly guy-Guillermo Diaz. Really great actors, really manly men, really gay. 🤓

As for manly men don’t shave their legs, 😂, my manly man, a sgt in the marines at Camp Pendleton took his platoon for an early morning run every morning. One day he embarrassed me. 😮. He thought he was being funny. Yup. That night, while he slept, I shaved his legs.

He took his platoon for their run, the next morning, with shaved legs. Shaved legs have nothing to do with sexual orientation, they have more to do with a very angry wife.
 
Chet said:
We used to have a policeman in this town who got fired for using the police computer for doing work regarding his private martial arts studio, and for soliciting sex from other men. How do you categorize this person?
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I would categorize them as being stupid, every one knows not to use the companies computer for personal use.
 
My dad was very manly. I think he spit testosterone. My mom told me a few times that when dad was dressed for an evening event with the Army, with all of his medals and ribbons, he looked like a General, but was a First Sergeant. He was in three wars, two on the ground. My mom said that she loved being on dad’s arm when walking into the room at an event.

I thought Dad would blow his top when I enlisted in the Marines, but he couldn’t have been prouder. When I left for boot, I asked him if he had any advice for me. He said all he could tell me was to never volunteer for anything, even if they promise you a weekend pass, especially if they promise you a weekend pass.
 
Anne said:
Rock Hudson was the damn goodlookingest hunk ever for a long time......but, as fate would have it.......:eek:
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Anne said:
Rock Hudson was the damn goodlookingest hunk ever for a long time......but, as fate would have it.......:eek:
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Poor ole Rock was the punch line in many a many old baseball records jokes..."who got hit in the face by the most pitched balls?" but in the interim some politicians have overtaken him.
 
I always thought Robert Stack was a very manly looking fellow, especially when playing a tough guy, but not in the movie “Airplane.”
 
A century ago, Manly was a popular man's name. In 2009 I researched a photo of people playing Croquet in front of a big house, in Clinton Maine. It was built in 1888, by Manly Morrison, a real Mover and Shaker in the Town of Clinton. I never found a picture of Manly.

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