Speakin'a the school shooting

[Aunt Bea]

Well put, Gary O!

Aunt Bea, probably the answer is somewhere in between the nostalgia for the good old days and the mistaken belief that bigger and bigger and bigger is always better. I don't think, for instance, that the whole family lining up to use the bathroom was so wonderful. Most people would consider having 2 bathrooms in the house a lot better. But do we need 5?

One car may have sufficed when Mom was home most of the time, and often didn't even know how to drive. But really, would it be enough for today's families? OTOH, I don't believe that every teenager really needs his/her own vehicle.

About the TV set, well, that whole concept is kind of obsolete. Most of the young people use other devices to watch TV. They seem to like the smaller screens, or maybe they like the privacy of being able to watch whatever they want without parental supervision. But even with only one TV set in the house, I doubt that whole families would sit clustered around it watching Sesame Street, like that family in the charming picture you posted.

Some things have improved, some have not. IMO, simply saying that the good old days were better is overly simplistic, and is generalizing some issues that are more complicated than that.

Thank you for telling me where the answer lies!

The point that I was trying to make in my earlier post is that when kids grew up in smaller homes with limited consumer goods it helped them to develop various life skills that hopefully make them better adults. Things like patience, negotiating skills, sharing, empathy, etc...

 

[hearlady]

I agree, millions of kids grew up in little Cape Cod or ranch style homes in a world where smaller was better. The family gathered in the living room to watch Bonanza or The Wonderful World of Disney together. They ate meals together, stood in line to use the bathroom and got along fine with just one car, television, etc...

For many kids today living in a spacious home with nothing to keep them company but a computer or a cell phone is a lonely and dangerous place to be.

That was when all this new technology starting was supposed to make our lives better but we've become slaves to it in a way. The vision was a four day work week so families had more time together but people work more and more hours nowadays.
Yes, kids at home with the vast amount of sensory overload is dangerous.
BTW we had 8 kids, one bathroom. That was just wonderful!

 

[Camper6]

I have been to Canada many timess and never had problems. Always met by the border patrols as I entered. They searched my van, opened tool boxes, asked lots of questions. I knew they were serious and tried to be open and serious with them.

How many millions of illegal, unregistered folks does Canada have living there. We have plenty here and more each day. Those folks have no respect for our government and the laws we are supposed to live with, or they would respect our Constitution and our laws and enter the US legally rather than by sneaking in illegally and never registering.

It's not millilons of illegal, unregistered folks that is the problem.

It's the millions of illegal unregistered guns that are the problem.

 

[KingsX]

... and couldn't wait to escape from that "better" lifestyle!

Aunt Bea, you have a starry-eyed view of the past.

Aunt Bea has an accurate view of the past for the majority of baby boomers.
This is how I grew up... in a 1000 sq ft house with my parents and two siblings.
My parents were family-oriented and our family did everything together... holidays,
vacations, drive-in movies, and the rare times we ate out. My father was the sole
breadwinner... yet he was able to buy a house and we lived comfortably. Like most
mothers of that time, my mother was a homemaker. I used to walk home from
elementary school to eat lunch my mother made for me. My mother was also
Girl Scout leader. Btw... also like most families, my father kept guns in the house
and carried a gun with him when we went on weekend road trips and camping vacations.
The gun was mainly to shoot rattlesnakes [I was born in west Texas]... nowadays,
there are much more dangerous snakes that are allowed to roam and prey on society.

 

[Warrigal]

The past is dead and the future is as yet unborn. It is the present that must be addressed.

 

[KingsX]

It's not millilons of illegal, unregistered folks that is the problem.

It's the millions of illegal unregistered guns that are the problem.

I wonder... is there any part of cultural marxism [which espouses open border globalist internationalism] that liberals don't embrace ??

 

[Olivia]

When you have to argue politics, you know you're losing the argument.

 

[AZ Jim]

I wonder... is there any part of cultural marxism [which espouses open border globalist internationalism] that liberals don't embrace ??

It would be prudent to NOT discuss your particular brand of politics here as we have been warned not to do.

 

[KingsX]

The past is dead and the future is as yet unborn. It is the present that must be addressed.

It's prudent to learn from history... both the good and the evil... otherwise you might repeat the evil.

Which brings me back to cultural marxism... the evil social agenda of the Marxist-Leninist Bolsheviks that they used to intentionally destroy Christian Russia and the foundation of Western Christian civilization, the family.

Ironically, Communist cultural marxists also worked overtime to destroy post-WW1 German society which accounts for the evil depraved degeneracy of the Weimar Republic. Hitler came to power because he vowed to destroy the Communist cultural marxists.

Vladimir Putin is right when he keeps saying over and over that Communists won WW2. Since the end of WW2, there has been little resistance to the ever progressing cultural marxist agenda that is now poised to destroy all nations.

 

[Camper6]

I wonder... is there any part of cultural marxism [which espouses open border globalist internationalism] that liberals don't embrace ??

Suppose you tell us?

 

[Traveler]

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[KingsX]

Suppose you tell us?

The same ideology Marxist-Leninist Bolsheviks forced on Russia is being promoted by cultural marxists today.

The Boksheviks overtly admitted their intent was to destroy religious and moral foundations of the country which ultimately resulted in the destruction of the family, destruction of thousands of churches and the mass murder of millions of Christians.

 

[KingsX]

It would be prudent to NOT discuss your particular brand of politics here as we have been warned not to do.

Reminds me of a Bible verse that says out of fear the people did not speak openly about Jesus.
Jerusalem at the time was occupied and ruled by the enemy.

 

[AZ Jim]

Reminds me of a Bible verse that says out of fear the people did not speak openly about Jesus.
Jerusalem at the time was occupied and ruled by the enemy.

I'm not talking about your religious talk, but rather your political views about liberals,etc.

 

[RadishRose]

Just announced...No school again tomorrow.

What the hey is going on in PA? Two more schools closed, a student shot himself in the bathoom, another "sleepwalked' 4 miles and entered his school in the middle of the night!

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/educ...after-shooting-threat-social-media/366229002/

• Central York threats: Schools closed for Friday, the third day in a row
• Red Lion shooting survivor on Central York threats: 'It's not funny. It's terrifying'
• Central York school threats: 'Someone out there, someone's child knows who sent this'
• York County schools bring in extra police, battle rumors in wake of threats, Fla. shooting
• No threat to Southern Middle School after social media post investigated, police say
• Hanover-Adams school threats: Social media rumors 'wreaking havoc at this point'
• Teen arrested, charged for threats against Hanover High School
• South Western High School student threatened to 'shoot up the school,' police say

 

[KingsX]

I'm not talking about your religious talk, but rather your political views about liberals,etc.

For me... this is not "politics"... it's my religion... and I don't compromise.

I think of it this way: Jesus told His disciples to travel to many different towns with the truth.
But if one town refuses that truth... to not waste their time... but to dust off their feet and
move on to the next town. I think of forums as virtual towns. Like Jesus' disciples, I have
been virtually mocked, attacked and killed [ie, banned]... but that does not keep me from
going to the next town [forum] with the truth. Jesus also said, those towns who reject
the truth will be punished. Ironically, Jesus also told His disciples, they will not be able
to travel to all towns before His second coming.
.

 

[Traveler]

I keep repeating that there is something fundamentally wrong with the "newer" ways of raising a family.

Where were the parents of the florida killer ? Why did they not see what was happening under their very noses ?
Why were they not more involved with him?

Time and again we hear that the parents, of the various school shooters, were "shocked".

If the parents had been much more involved with their own children, and had been loving, concerned, active parents, these killings would never have happened.

 

[rgp]

I keep repeating that there is something fundamentally wrong with the "newer" ways of raising a family.

Where were the parents of the florida killer ? Why did they not see what was happening under their very noses ?
Why were they not more involved with him?

Time and again we hear that the parents, of the various school shooters, were "shocked".

If the parents had been much more involved with their own children, and had been loving, concerned, active parents, these killings would never have happened.

Weren't the 'parents' actually dead ?...I believe he was in the custody of foster parents ?

 

[RadishRose]

He and his brother were adopted as babies by nice people. The father died when Cruz was 9. The mother fought an uphill battle trying to help this kid. She called the police something like 20 times to try to talk to the boy. He had medication and counseling. So you don't need to repeat yourself anymore.

When she died last Nov, the State placed him and his natural younger brother with this lady in a trailer, who threw him out over the gun. After that, I don't know.

 

[SifuPhil]

... Hitler came to power because he vowed to destroy the Communist cultural marxists ...

So ...

People that want to eliminate cultural Marxism should be associated with Hitler?

Got it.

 

[BobF]

Bigger is not necessarily better.

Bigger space also means bigger utility bills, bigger maintenance costs and bigger insurance.

When I first moved to California I bought a new home of about 1,400 sq ft and paid about $14,500. I recently looked it up and it now is in a neighborhood selling for $400,000 to $500,000 each. Amazing isn't it? I could not afford to live in California any more. A house I had in Casa Grande AZ was the smallest in that part of town, 2,250 sq ft and it recently sold for about $150,000.

Size is not a criteria, but a choice, as the people do have to buy their own house in competitive market. Much different from other areas where they can rent only or live where the government says they can. For some reason there is not much difference in home styles in the US, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand. Is it the English connection?


But of course, this is America, where big=better.

It is not a rule for all of us to live in larger houses but it sure is a nice possibility that is not available in many of our European or other countries. Shoe horn living is mandated by their leadership and budgets. In the US many do choose to live in smaller housing for various living choices. But most in the US do choose the larger housing. And it all depends on where you live too. I know live in a 1,400 sq ft house with a market value of a bit over $100,000.

 

[Traveler]

I keep repeating that there is something fundamentally wrong with the "newer" ways of raising a family.

Where were the parents of the florida killer ? Why did they not see what was happening under their very noses ?
Why were they not more involved with him?

Time and again we hear that the parents, of the various school shooters, were "shocked".

If the parents had been much more involved with their own children, and had been loving, concerned, active parents, these killings would never have happened.

There are many school shooters. The most recent is but one example of many. Unless I am mistaken the Sandy Hook shooter's mother bought him his guns. How about the parents of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the Colombine killers?

In any event, nice, decent, well supervised, kids don't just wake up one morning and decide to kill. The process takes time. I just want to know where the parents were during that time ? Where was the supervision ?

The parents of our generations watched us like hawks. If we were caught smoking cigarettes we were in big troubles. Not, today ! Many of today's kids go unsupervised, free to do anything they please. School shootings are the price to be paid for this new style of parenting.

 

[Olivia]

For me... this is not "politics"... it's my religion... and I don't compromise.

I think of it this way: Jesus told His disciples to travel to many different towns with the truth.
But if one town refuses that truth... to not waste their time... but to dust off their feet and
move on to the next town. I think of forums as virtual towns. Like Jesus' disciples, I have
been virtually mocked, attacked and killed [ie, banned]... but that does not keep me from
going to the next town [forum] with the truth. Jesus also said, those towns who reject
the truth will be punished. Ironically, Jesus also told His disciples, they will not be able
to travel to all towns before His second coming.
.

This isn't anything new. Atheist/Skeptics would go around to Christian forums and mock and challenge them. That's how I got on one of those skeptic boards, and not just me (except that I was on a grief board) wanting to go there and complain. Except that I ended up staying for 17 years and still going. In time the group has shrunken and the difference is that we who stayed hadn't changed our minds, but learned to live with each other's differences. It's not impossible.

I don't know if you meant it that way, but the U.S. is not a theocracy and that's actually what the first settlers and founding fathers were wanting to get away from. We can still live together in peace in spite of our differences if we really truly want to.

 

[Shalimar]

I keep repeating that there is something fundamentally wrong with the "newer" ways of raising a family.

Where were the parents of the florida killer ? Why did they not see what was happening under their very noses ?
Why were they not more involved with him?

Time and again we hear that the parents, of the various school shooters, were "shocked".

If the parents had been much more involved with their own children, and had been loving, concerned, active parents, these killings would never have happened.

By this reasoning alone, never mind the sexual slavery which defined my childhood, I should be a mass murderer several times over. I walk a different path. Yet, on the outside, my childhood did not mirror the horror which lurked within.

 

[KingsX]

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I posted many facts from history.
But as usual, very few learn from history.